Posted 12 November 2005 - 07:11 AM
Amanda may have known that the pit of needles was there, but she couldn't have known that she would get tossed into it.
The blonde girl didn't 'just fall down'. I don't know about the "bleeding from every orifice" thing, but the convulsing and spasming - yeah, that's what nerve gas does to you.
Like Spook said, there was a way to get out of the furnace. There was a valve, with a charicature of the devil pointing to it. The word "twist" was written there, and I believe there was an arrow indicating the appropriate direction of the twist.
As for the dad getting locked in the basement, and possibly starving to death - that's how the first movie ended, with the photographer dude, so if you didn't like Saw II for that, then you can't like the first Saw, either.
I didn't enjoy either Saw I or Saw II, for the gore, or the thrill of being frightened, I liked both movies for the message that they had, that people shouldn't take life for granted. Saw II was not a very scary movie at all, but that's not what I wanted out of it, so that didn't take away from my enjoyment of it.
The tough girl sticking her hands in that trap was indeed a pretty bone-headed move, but maybe she was too exhausted to think about it.
Yeah, the SWAT team should have been careful enough to avoid that trap. Here's a hint: If a creepy doll thing starts laughing at you, you might want to get out of there. And the doll was in it about as much as it was in the first Saw.
And the way they beat you over the head at the end with the summary of all of the plot twists and how they work out is pretty lame. I can tolerate it, but it would be better to let it be more subtle.
"We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living."
– Richard Buckminster Fuller