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#871 thecreeper

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:32 PM

I watched the season premiere of The Orville. I hated it. Some highlights include...

 

 - A blue alien that ejaculates blue jizz from his face.

 

 - A dog sits on a couch and licks its own balls.

 

 - A crew member asks the captain if he can drink soda on the bridge and later, he totally drinks soda on the bridge what a payoff !

 

 - Making a reference to Papa Smurf...in the year 24somethingsomething...just...why....are.............you.....writing........................this ?????

 

 - All the terrible, terrible "humor" in the trailer...it was real, dear god it was real.....

 

 - A SPACE GLUE GUN. SERIOUSLY. A SPACE GLUE GUN. THEY TOOK A GLUE GUN AND SPACED IT UP AND IT IS FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME AS A NORMAL RUN OF THE MILL 21st CENTURY GLUE GUN. YOU KNOW, IN THE 25th CENTURY. IN THE FUTURE. JUST. RAGE.

 

I watched an interview with Seth MacFarlane and he was saying this was a "Dramedy;" that it wasn't a spoof and how much he likes Science Fiction and how he's wanted to do this for a while...I don't understand. Seth could be the nicest, most wonderful person on the planet but I hate his creative works. I don't understand how he thinks this kind of comedy could make this type of show better. I don't think this show could make anyone happy regardless; it's not funny enough (dear fucking god just fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk) for people to stick around for the comedy (unless that is your type of comedy in which case, have at it) and it's not Science Fiction "Star Trek" enough (ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh some things were...fine...not really...I don't know like one thing ? Uhhh...maybe ? Fuck) for anyone to be dazzled or interested by the science to be had here. Even if you were, you would have to put up with A LOT of "comedy" and uninteresting characters just to get to maybe ONE interesting piece of science or space shit or something. I don't know, maybe if you like his other stuff you'll like this too ? Maybe ? I don't know how but maybe.

 

for some reason i also watched this. i can report your take is on point. the more i think about this show the madder i get.

 

for all the talk about how this was a passion project for Seth and it was different from his other stuff, it's the same shit in a live action bun. And you know what, that's fine, he has his large built in audience that will follow him to whatever project. But the real shame is that after years of struggling to get another Star Trek or even a half decent weekly scifi show on the air, this somehow gets a generous budget and a solid cast (including a deep cut from DS9 as the ship's doctor). They built a lot of sets comparable to TNG level stuff and the CG was generally pretty good for a weekly show, and they certainly weren't shy on showing space action. The plot of the episode wasn't even a bad premise for your standard Star Trek episode. Receive distress call, people on planet have a secondary motive, bad guys show up, crew has to save the day. Standard template stuff.

 

And the thing is, the show would have been absolutely fine if played straight with a little bit of comedy. But the entire thing just constantly sounds utterly insecure if its being funny enough, and every scene sounds like the writers room had to "punch up the script" with a dick joke or a fourth wall breaking out of character aside (shocking, I know). And I think the show's critical issue is thinking that people in general like Seth McFarlane as a person enough to see him as a likable protagonist. It's definitely not going to convince anyone who didn't really like the guy that this show is worth watching. 

 

Also, perhaps the grossest thing about the whole endeavor is how shamelessly it completely and utterly rips off Star Trek. It barely even tries to hide it. From the uniforms to the ships to the music to the character archetypes (the one dude might as well be named Worf, and there's a shitty Data who apparently is extremely racist, because that was definitely needed), there's not an original thought in this show. Its premise is "what if Star Trek had dick jokes and a real casual crew?" If this was Seth's passion project, I wonder if he has an original thought in his head. 


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:23 PM

I struggled to make it through the Orville. Observations:

- The Krill are Jem'hadar. Like... they just are. But they also look a lot like Krall from ST: Beyond. Just white.

- LOL they addressed the toilet situation, LOL LOL remember how they never did that on Star Trek? LOL LOL

- Boy, the racist robot voice guy is really, reallllly putting on his Brent Spiner impersonation. 

- Seth is a worst actor than I expected. 

- Oy vey, the bickering between him and the ex-wife character. Yeesh. Cringe.

- Almost none of the jokes landed for me. It's been 15 minutes since it ended, and I'm struggling to remember even one. 

- They really just, uh, have a holodeck? 

- Boy, future New York sure looks 99.9% like future San Francisco's Federation headquarters in ST. 

- No transporters? I guess something has to be different. Even if that's almost literally the only thing.

- Will they just go with a universal translator explanation, re: language eventually? Or just ignore it through the whole season?

- Penny Johnson Jerald was Kasidy Yates in Deep Space 9. She had more personality back then. Is she kind of Spock+McCoy? She had the [nearly identical looking space device] slung over her shoulder like in TOS. Interestingly, she was also on Castle for a spell, as was Michael Dorn. 

- Brian George was Doctor Bashir's father in Deep Space 9. 

- How many more cameos will there be in the season? I see that Brannon Braga, Johnathan Frakes, James Conway, and Robert Duncan McNeill are all slated to direct episodes. So probably a lot more. I guess that's fine. 

- I actually liked the music.

 

I could probably go on. But, eh, I can't see myself tuning in for this again.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:58 PM

Its premise is "what if Star Trek had dick jokes and a real casual crew?"


Sign me up! I'll give it a shot when it inevitably lands on Netflix.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:29 AM

For some reason I've been really wanting watch LOST again.

Anyone else gone back to it recently?
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:54 AM

Its premise is "what if Star Trek had dick jokes and a real casual crew?"

 

Yeah, it just looks like one of Family Guy's dumb cutaway jokes somehow spun off into its own series.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 07:49 AM

For some reason I've been really wanting watch LOST again.

Anyone else gone back to it recently?

 

I've thought about it. Then I thought about how it ended and just can't do it. Same goes for Battlestar Galactica. The endings of those two shows have retroactively made the entire series unwatchable for me.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:06 PM

Battlestar Galactica was unwatchable to begin with. There's a dramatic pause for commercial every 5-8 minutes.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:47 PM

I can't believe the last episode of Bojack Horseman season 4

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UNBELIEVABLE
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:06 AM

Oh man...on episode 3 of 11.22.63. This show is intense.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:54 AM

I can't believe the last episode of Bojack Horseman season 4

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UNBELIEVABLE

I totally had a major AW at that part, and I love it. The show isn't falling into a pattern of rinse and repeat, there's growth and development!

 

And I think it was needed after episode 11. That shit was dark as fuck.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:27 AM

I too watched the Orville, only because I actually know someone who worked on the series. I hate anything (except for the Cosmos reboot) Seth McFarlane has done creatively. I hate Family Guy. I hate American Dad. I hate that stupid talking bear movie. McFarlane seems like an ok person but he sucks creatively. Ok, maybe sucks is too strong of a word, it's just not my taste. The Orville was OK but yeah, it landed flat on virtually all of its jokes.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:34 AM

yesterday was the biggest 'tv day' of the year for me, two new bizarre episodes of BEDTIME STORIES and a new BROAD CITY that was thankfully, very good

 

for all the folks who like Lynch-ian weirdness check out BS. the eps are short and, keeping true to its title, mostly exist in some sort of surreal dream-logic that never gets truly explained. sure, its Tim & Eric so there's some funny weirdness, but if you don't like their normal humor you should at least give it a chance. its a very different tone than that stuff, deliberately so


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:44 AM

Oh hell, forgot both of those came back. Gracias!

 

Watched the finale of Preacher last night. Season 2 was huge mixed bag. Some great moments scattered in between long, dull stretches. So much of this season felt like they were spinning their wheels. The finale was kind of a clusterfuck and just all over the place. It felt incredibly sloppy and kind of put a bad taste in my mouth for this series moving forward.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:26 AM

Oh hell, forgot both of those came back. Gracias amigas!

FTFY

 

Bed Time Stories is great.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:28 AM

Oh man...on episode 3 of 11.22.63. This show is intense.


Thanks, want to see this and keep forgetting about it.
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