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#121 raubhimself

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:43 PM

Are the screws actually biting the threads when you screw them in? It's hard to tell if the screws should be screwing directly into that box or something behind it. 


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#122 unluckycharm

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:46 PM

So I've got what seems to be a fairly small problem, but I'm generally not super handy and I figured it couldn't hurt to ask here if anyone has advice.

The ceiling light fixture in my daughter's room keeps falling off, like so:
https://i.imgur.com/kMuDBtH.jpg

There are two long screws which hold the fixture to the box here:
https://i.imgur.com/qxnBPRB.jpg

...but they just keep falling out? I feel like I'm missing something obvious here, but I don't want to keep poking around in case I wreck something with my ignorance.

I would think the most obvious answer is that either your screws or box holes are stripped.  Not sure what the best solution would be (though I've worked on a lot of light fixtures, I don't run into this thing much).  You need to somehow match the screws and holes - maybe find out as much info as you can on the fixture and box, take your info and some photos into an Ace Hardware or something and see if they have a solution for you.  

 

Or google the heck out of youtube on this subject, sometimes you'll find some ingenious solutions. 


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 03:38 PM

Atomic, that's not actually the proper box for a ceiling fixture, FYI. That's an old work box, they work by cutting a square in the Sheetrock, sliding the box in, and tightening those Phillips screws in the corner that make two tabs tighten down, pinching the wall between that and the ears on the front of the box. All that basically amounts to the light only being supported by a tiny bit of plastic and Sheetrock. This is assuming that whoever installed it didn't also run a screw through the side of the box into a joist or something. I've also seen lights supported this way thatve been up for 30+ years so chances are it's a moot point, but I figure I'd give you a heads up.

The threads in those boxes are 6-32 threads. Light fixtures by code need to be held by something a size bigger so they come with 8-32s, which they might've just ran into the same threads because it's soft plastic and you can force them. You could run a 10-32 or 10-24 in if its still not grabbing anything, but a better option would be to take the glass off the fixture, see if there are any holes further to the sides (if not, drill some), and then either try to run a screw into a joist, put anchors in the Sheetrock and hold to that, or use toggle bolts.

i think you're kinda by where I work or live, too. If you want a hand with it PM me and I mght be able to come by and help out for the low low shizzie price of a sandwich.

Edit: if you want to see if there is any lumber near the light in the ceiling to grab, you could loosen those Phillips screws in the corner (just a little bit at a time, you don't want the tabs to fall off entirely, just loosen and rotate back) drop the box down and peek around in the ceiling.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:30 AM

Thanks for the help, everyone.

 

And, Robby - thanks much for the offer! I certainly don't want to take advantage of you but if it works out I'd love to have a hand with this. I'd be happy to shoot some more videos for you as part of repayment. Also my wife said she'd bake you anything you want

 

I'll PM you in a bit.


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#125 Ken Oh

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:18 AM

Wtf kind of tool do I get to tighten the hex thing around the tube?

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This is what feeds up into my kitchen faucet behind the sink, and there's only about a fist width of room. I've looked for 'right angle wrench' but that didn't result in much.
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#126 unluckycharm

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:36 AM

Something like this?  I don't really know.  

 

https://www.amazon.c...y/dp/B00L3ERVFO


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

Wtf kind of tool do I get to tighten the hex thing around the tube?

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This is what feeds up into my kitchen faucet behind the sink, and there's only about a fist width of room. I've looked for 'right angle wrench' but that didn't result in much.


You're looking for a Basin Wrench

https://www.amazon.c...in wrench&psc=1
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#128 Ken Oh

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:39 PM

That looks about right. Thanks!
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:04 AM

My house has a lamp post in the front yard. There's a light sensor on the post that's supposed to turn it on at night, and no switch (at least that I've found). It hasn't worked most nights, and I thought it was just that the sensor was picking up the neighbor's light or something like that.

Then, two weeks ago it rained overnight, and the light worked. I thought it was a coincidence, but then last night it rained again and sure enough the light was on.

Anyone have idea ideas why it would only turn on nights when it rains?

I'm kicking myself for not figuring out which breaker the light was on while it was working.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:25 PM

My house has a lamp post in the front yard. There's a light sensor on the post that's supposed to turn it on at night, and no switch (at least that I've found). It hasn't worked most nights, and I thought it was just that the sensor was picking up the neighbor's light or something like that.

Then, two weeks ago it rained overnight, and the light worked. I thought it was a coincidence, but then last night it rained again and sure enough the light was on.

Anyone have idea ideas why it would only turn on nights when it rains?

I'm kicking myself for not figuring out which breaker the light was on while it was working.

 

Is there maybe a connection being bridged by water? If so, that sounds hella firehazard-y to me?


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#131 Robby V

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:54 PM

Yeah, my guess is the connection at the lamp post the wires are connected under a wire nut but not twisted or something along those lines. Those sorta connections fail after a while, and humidity can make them temporarily work.
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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:19 AM

Interesting. I worked out which circuit breaker it's on (the labeling in this house is abysmal), so tonight I'll try popping the light fixture off the pole and see what's there.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

Interesting. I worked out which circuit breaker it's on (the labeling in this house is abysmal), so tonight I'll try popping the light fixture off the pole and see what's there.

 

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:40 PM

Has anyone gone through the process of doing a "For Sale by Owner"? I'm about to have to organize the paperwork for that pretty soon. Any advice to look out for? Fortunately the city decided to take a massive shit in my basement and buy me time to organize while there is a bunch of repair work going on.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 12:45 PM

Fortunately the city decided to take a massive shit in my basement

i imagined a line, blocks long, of every resident of your city waiting to take a dump in your basement

 

i laughed


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