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#31 Brandon Strader

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:24 AM

the reality is my snare is so strong demonstray's feminized brony ears can't comprehend it
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:51 AM

Snailiad
ooh real bass? We should start listing real instruments before the voting.

The fake accordion is too fake-sounding for my taste. Good bass and guitar playing! The song is kinda fun, but doesn't hold my attention too well.


The bass is all real and played by me. Heh, the funny thing is that the accordion is also real. Careless is the accordion guy, so that stuff is up to him, unless I can make it sound more real in mixing somehow.

I know just repeating the song 3 times isn't too interesting, but we were barely over the 2 minute minimum as it was. Careless had some idea of having the song change to unrelated Final Fantasy town songs, but I just wanted to keep it simple and stick to Snailiad. The Seinfeld thing was just sort of a joke that I added to change things up a bit and because I love Seinfeld.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:56 AM

OH BURN YO. REAL ACCORDZ
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:00 AM

Didn't mean to try to out your mix Omiga :) That l'aqua music also played at the front of Laqour. The base had a name but it escapes me right now, but it did have a shop, a place to rest, and npc's not trying to kill you so it passed the rules of what a "town" was. I was trying to point out that someone was thinking outside the box a bit. :)



It's cool, I didn't think you were trying to out it, I was just hesitant myself. At one point I was going to throw a lot more in there (Shower of Blossoms comes to mind) but by the time I got to where it is when I submitted it I was quite set on a short little power metal blast.

As for the guitar tones, I'm really not happy with them. Haven't found the best place to set up for micing my guitar yet and me and the bass player did this a little on the drunk side so I just set the amp up and slapped some mics in front of it. Whenever I removed the rhythm guitars from the mix everything had far more clarity and the bass driving the track was pretty cool so in hindsight I should have just went with that.

The lack of low end comes from I have SUPER bass heavy speakers to mix with and overcompensated (Again :lol: ). I have some awesome headphones these days but I haven't listened to enough regular music on them to get a good idea of how they relate to anything else I'd play a song on.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:16 AM

Was the second half supposed to be like a joke song? I know you guys like to do stuff like that sometimes.


Not really, but I can totally see how it would seem that way.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:38 AM


Snailiad
ooh real bass? We should start listing real instruments before the voting.

The fake accordion is too fake-sounding for my taste. Good bass and guitar playing! The song is kinda fun, but doesn't hold my attention too well.


The bass is all real and played by me. Heh, the funny thing is that the accordion is also real. Careless is the accordion guy, so that stuff is up to him, unless I can make it sound more real in mixing somehow.


I'm honored that you think my accordion sounds like "stock" accordion midi because the midi's job is to sound like perfectly recorded accordion. :)
I try to leave clues so you can tell the difference when I record. Like any time the accordion switches voices you'll generally hear a click sound, unless the person recorded in multiple takes in an effort to remove it.
You can hear the sound of switching reeds in the mix of Seinsnaild at 1:15, a sort of metallic click that almost sounds like a part of the drum set. From my experience with midi it's also generally tough to fake droning accordion chords (the non-melody hum in the intro) in midi that have variance/wobble, so I try to do stuff like that.

Same with the piano. It's kind of out of tune which lets you know that someone likely played a real piano... Unless someone would intentionally use a detuned piano midi for some reason... Speaking of which, anyone know how to tune a really nice piano without risking damage, or should I just get a professional when I can afford it?

Related, if i'm taking this critique the wrong way what sounds bad about it so I can tweak next time?

Also, Branden, your track was awesome! I really appreciated the the didgeridoo for non-comedic purposes!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

The lack of low end comes from I have SUPER bass heavy speakers to mix with and overcompensated (Again :lol: ). I have some awesome headphones these days but I haven't listened to enough regular music on them to get a good idea of how they relate to anything else I'd play a song on.


Hehe, it's frustrating. I got my studio monitors like ten years ago (though I didn't really start learning to mix until more recently). And I didn't know anything about room treatment at the time, and now that I do, I realize the room I'm set up in is kind of a lost cause acoustically :-/
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#38 Omigadrive

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:02 AM


The lack of low end comes from I have SUPER bass heavy speakers to mix with and overcompensated (Again :lol: ). I have some awesome headphones these days but I haven't listened to enough regular music on them to get a good idea of how they relate to anything else I'd play a song on.


Hehe, it's frustrating. I got my studio monitors like ten years ago (though I didn't really start learning to mix until more recently). And I didn't know anything about room treatment at the time, and now that I do, I realize the room I'm set up in is kind of a lost cause acoustically :-/


That sucks. My wife has to put up with wherever I end up basically so I have the whole place to check out :lol:
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:31 PM


Was the second half supposed to be like a joke song? I know you guys like to do stuff like that sometimes.


Not really, but I can totally see how it would seem that way.


Well, all of that stuff aside, I do really like the instrumental version. Thanks for bothering to create a separate mix and uploading it.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:04 PM

Before we leave this month behind us, there's one thing I have to know.

Who or what is Sung Hyung Cho?

I don't get the reference.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:05 PM

I thought this months entries were all really good, I really liked the FQ remix simply because FQ had amazing music.

Well...they were all good barring Straders WEAK ASS SNARE.
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#42 Omigadrive

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

Before we leave this month behind us, there's one thing I have to know.

Who or what is Sung Hyung Cho?

I don't get the reference.


Foxx knows...


... Foxx always knows.
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#43 FoxxDragon

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 04:59 PM

Before we leave this month behind us, there's one thing I have to know.

Who or what is Sung Hyung Cho?

I don't get the reference.

Omiga (12:21:05 PM): Still can't think of a god damn title =/
Fox (12:21:11 PM): haha
Omiga (12:21:18 PM): Its town themes and its power metal
Omiga (12:21:34 PM): Can't be that hard!
Fox (12:21:56 PM): Rock the Town
Omiga (12:22:24 PM): Doesn't really work. If it was a rock track then yeah.
Omiga (12:22:35 PM): Plus its not silly enough for me Nate.
Omiga (12:22:43 PM): I do stupid titles, you know this by now.
Fox (12:22:53 PM): Well get on it!
Omiga (12:23:00 PM): I'm trying.
Omiga (12:23:05 PM): Must just be a serious day.
Fox (12:24:46 PM): apparently there is a movie called "Full Metal Village"
Omiga (12:25:07 PM): Hahaha
Omiga (12:25:27 PM): Is it like, a vietnamese version of full metal jacket from their perspective?
Fox (12:25:30 PM): So i say:
Full Metal Village. Population: You
Fox (12:25:46 PM): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0954937/
Omiga (12:26:06 PM): Well
Omiga (12:26:11 PM): I got the asian part right I guess
Omiga (12:26:12 PM): Hahaha
Fox (12:26:24 PM): that was pretty amazing
Omiga (12:26:44 PM): Hahaha actually its in germany
Omiga (12:26:49 PM): It's about the wacked festival.
Omiga (12:26:59 PM): Just random asian writing on the dvd cover for some reason
Omiga (12:27:13 PM): wacken***
Fox (12:27:13 PM): the director is asian
Omiga (12:27:20 PM): Hahaha awesome
Fox (12:27:36 PM): this is your song. come on. it's perfect ;-)
Omiga (12:27:57 PM): Hahaha
Omiga (12:28:27 PM): Full Metal Village (Sponsored by Nate Horsfall, for all your falling from horse needs!)
Omiga (12:31:48 PM): Sung Hyung Cho Presents "Full Metal Village"
Omiga (12:31:55 PM): Just to make people go
Omiga (12:32:00 PM): ".... what?"


Mission accomplished!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:41 PM

Thus ends our tale and what a magical journey it was.
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#45 Garpocalypse

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:16 PM


Before we leave this month behind us, there's one thing I have to know.

Who or what is Sung Hyung Cho?

I don't get the reference.

Omiga (12:21:05 PM): Still can't think of a god damn title =/
Fox (12:21:11 PM): haha
Omiga (12:21:18 PM): Its town themes and its power metal
Omiga (12:21:34 PM): Can't be that hard!
Fox (12:21:56 PM): Rock the Town
Omiga (12:22:24 PM): Doesn't really work. If it was a rock track then yeah.
Omiga (12:22:35 PM): Plus its not silly enough for me Nate.
Omiga (12:22:43 PM): I do stupid titles, you know this by now.
Fox (12:22:53 PM): Well get on it!
Omiga (12:23:00 PM): I'm trying.
Omiga (12:23:05 PM): Must just be a serious day.
Fox (12:24:46 PM): apparently there is a movie called "Full Metal Village"
Omiga (12:25:07 PM): Hahaha
Omiga (12:25:27 PM): Is it like, a vietnamese version of full metal jacket from their perspective?
Fox (12:25:30 PM): So i say:
Full Metal Village. Population: You
Fox (12:25:46 PM): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0954937/
Omiga (12:26:06 PM): Well
Omiga (12:26:11 PM): I got the asian part right I guess
Omiga (12:26:12 PM): Hahaha
Fox (12:26:24 PM): that was pretty amazing
Omiga (12:26:44 PM): Hahaha actually its in germany
Omiga (12:26:49 PM): It's about the wacked festival.
Omiga (12:26:59 PM): Just random asian writing on the dvd cover for some reason
Omiga (12:27:13 PM): wacken***
Fox (12:27:13 PM): the director is asian
Omiga (12:27:20 PM): Hahaha awesome
Fox (12:27:36 PM): this is your song. come on. it's perfect ;-)
Omiga (12:27:57 PM): Hahaha
Omiga (12:28:27 PM): Full Metal Village (Sponsored by Nate Horsfall, for all your falling from horse needs!)
Omiga (12:31:48 PM): Sung Hyung Cho Presents "Full Metal Village"
Omiga (12:31:55 PM): Just to make people go
Omiga (12:32:00 PM): ".... what?"


Mission accomplished!



Really? and I thought I had a weird sense of humor...

So anyway, two transgender anorexic greek xenophobes walk into a scandinavian themed bar located in south america and owned by a family of persians...
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