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#16 mooniniteG

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:35 PM

juef for Prime Minister!


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#17 Ken Oh

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 09:45 PM

holy fuck this is exciting. time to get that job where i was making 25% of what i make now so i can just do this all day like i did with the NES tracks one.
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#18 Eric Dude

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:32 PM

Wow, it's finally happening...

 

This is a momentous day! Thank you sir!


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#19 Ken Oh

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:23 AM

(34,671 to be precise).


Wait, so if I'm doing the math right, it would take 601,021,785 duelz to complete them all. I guess that's assuming that you've made sure no account will do the same duel twice.

 

On the down side, to complete them all in 50 years you would need to pace yourself at 33,765 per day. On the bright side, I look forward to continuing this project well into my retirement.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 06:20 AM

Juef, is there any way to view a list of the tracks you've voted on? I'd imagine the site retains that info somehow.

 

I don't believe we implemented such a thing, but yeah, we do keep that info. Unless Jerther has a reason for us not to do that, I'll go ahead and make that page soon, thanks for the suggestion! It probably just gonna be a table with two columns ("Winner" and "Loser"), and the game & track titles with a link to their respective pages, unless you had something more in mind?

 

That's pretty much all I was looking for! 


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Ducktales is actually in 1/16 and there are just different amounts of measures in the phrases you fucking scrubs

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:05 AM

I swear to god I had a dream about this last night. The site suddenly had so many more features like the member directory and playlist randomizer and so on. I think it created world peace though I may be imagining that.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:45 AM

(34,671 to be precise).


Wait, so if I'm doing the math right, it would take 601,021,785 duelz to complete them all. I guess that's assuming that you've made sure no account will do the same duel twice.

 

That is correct! However, many of those tracks are jingles / sound effects and only available through the games pages: they won't appear in a duel. That, and the shitty tracks (see my previous post) make for a much more manageable number of duels, probably closer to 392,000,000, which is barely 22,000/day, or about one every 4 seconds. Which is... technically impossible, due to the forced listening. Oh well! :P  Also, we thankfully won't need every single duel to be made for a valid list, as long as each track has made a bunch of duels. In due time, we'll probably use a score threshold or something for the duels, so that the better tracks can duel, making the top of the list more accurate.

 

I swear to god I had a dream about this last night. The site suddenly had so many more features like the member directory and playlist randomizer and so on. I think it created world peace though I may be imagining that.

 

I'll take those as suggestions! :) Please bug me about this in a couple of weeks if I don't do ii.


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#23 VikingGuitar

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:47 AM

The fact that it reveals previous tracks AND lets you add them to a playlist is the best fucking thing ever.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 09:46 AM

I think it created world peace though I may be imagining that.


Can we start the Church of VGMtology, and reunite all mankind under its ever-loving umbrella?

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#25 Ken Oh

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:12 PM

member directory


I was playing around with this. Go to the search bar in the top right, change the SNES pad to user search, and search for *.

Would be cool if that list had duelz completed displayed.
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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:16 PM

 

And to get rid of the shitty tracks, you can check the box that says so before voting in a duel. When a track has a history of being considered "Shitty", it won't be selected for a duel anymore, but still going to be available on the game's page.

 

How many "shitty" votes does a track have to get before it's excluded? Just one? I feel like "shitty" is a fairly vague term...


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Ducktales is actually in 1/16 and there are just different amounts of measures in the phrases you fucking scrubs

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:27 PM

To be honest, we're not quite decided on that, but it's definitely gonna have to be a few "shitty votes", as well as a big "shitty vote" count relative to the total number of duels the track was part of.

 

I know it's not the most descriptive term ever, but it's the best we could come up with. Basically check it if really sucks / hurts your ears / provides you with negative enjoyment.

 

[EDIT] It's been a while since we touched that part of the site, but I checked and while the shit votes are remembered, they are indeed not yet used. We'll try and account for trolls as well. Here's the current algorithm to determine if a track is truly shit, please disregard the inefficiency:

$n = $this->get_number_of_shitvotes_for_Track($idTrack);
$r = $this->get_shitvotes_ratio_for_Track($idTrack);

if($n >= 3   && $r == 1)    return true;
if($n >= 4   && $r >= 0.75) return true;
if($n >= 5   && $r >= 0.6)  return true;
if($n >= 7   && $r >= 0.5)  return true;
if($n >= 10  && $r >= 0.40) return true;
if($n >= 20  && $r >= 0.30) return true;
if($n >= 30  && $r >= 0.2)  return true;
if($n >= 50  && $r >= 0.15) return true;
if($n >= 100 && $r >= 0.1)  return true;

return false;

So a track is said to be shitty if it was considered shitty 100% of the time in the 3+ duels it was part of, OR, if it was considered shitty 75% of the time in the 4+ duels it was part of, OR, ..., OR it was considered shitty 10% of the time in the 100+ duels it was part of. This was done quickly and we were planning on adjusting these values before actually using the function, so if you have comments or suggestions, please do so!

 

As for the "Is this user a troll?" function:

$n = $this->get_number_of_shitvotes_for_User($idUser);
$r = $this->get_shitvotes_ratio_for_User($idUser);

if($n > 25  && $r == 1)    return true;
if($n > 50  && $r >= 0.95) return true;
if($n > 100 && $r >= 0.90) return true;
if($n > 200 && $r >= 0.85) return true;
if($n > 400 && $r >= 0.80) return true;

return false;

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#28 Ivan Hakštok

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:53 PM

I have to say, the "tracks worth putting on the playlist" vs "shit tracks" ratio has been better than expected for me so far. I thought there'd be way more shit.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:11 PM

Any chance of getting the listening threshold lowered to around 30 seconds? I know you want to force people to listen but so many of these songs are repetitive and boring, and there is no difference between 30 seconds and 60 seconds. 


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:06 PM

Likewise, being able to skip ahead would be useful. I hit an 8 minute track last night that was likely going to lose the duel, but I had to give it a few minutes to see if it changed for the better at some point (it didn’t).
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