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#1 DiscountBabyJam Mike

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:18 AM

The Wikipedia entry for Rygar does not mention it being a Metroidvania. This is correct. Rygarmanias precede Metroidvanias. The first Castlevania that was an official Metroidvania was Castlevania: Symphony of the Night which came out in March 1997. Even if you wanted to call Castlevania II: Simon's Quest a Metroidvania it was still preceded by Rygar by 4 months, both being released in 1987. The term -vania doesn't even make sense, they should really just be called "-troids". Metroid preceded both Castlevania II: Simon's Quest and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.

 

Now, you might say, "Surely, then, Rygar must be a Rygroid or a Metrogar." Wrong.

 

 

A Rygarmania is superior to a -troid or "Metroidvania" because it incorporates perspective shifts and talking to NPCs. The game begins in side-scrolling mode. At points dictated by map movement (of your choice), you enter scintillating top-down mode. An entire system was developed and released by Nintendo to capture the perspective shift phenomenon. The system was called Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) and the technology was called Mode 7. I'm also nearly positive that Sony developed the Playstation purely so you could talk to NPCs in a variety of games. Rygar was capable of perspective shifts, item collecting, freedom of movement and deep philosophical debates with NPCs in the year 1987.

 

Rygar was the first Rygarmania. Researchers have since discovered two additional Rygarmanias, Bionic Commando (NES) and Zelda II: Adventure of Link (NES).

 

Please list other games of the superior Rygarmania genre in this thread.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:26 AM

Rygroid! Rygroid! Rygroid!
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:41 AM

What about Dragon Quest? Perspective shifts and NPCs for days. 


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:12 AM

Phantasy Star. Perspective changes and loads of NPCs. Total freedom of movement also.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:32 AM

I hate the term "Metroidvania" and never use it, so I'm fully in support of Rygarmania.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:48 AM

games like dragon quest and ultima exodus, in my opinion, do not fall into the same category (as much as i love those games).  they may have perspective shifts but there is no traditional "platforming" aspect to either of the games in the series.  you have NPC interaction and different perspective views (actually, dragon quest not so much but overworld-to-dungeon in ultima yes) but it doesn't play like a platformer like rygar does.  rygar is an action game whereas DQ and ultima are more plodding exploration (DQ with random encounters, ultima with on screen encounters)

 

closer to the rygar formula of perspective shifting would have been contra.  lack of NPC interaction kills that.

 

now that i've been writing about it, one game did occur to me that almost falls into the rygar formula of perspective shifts and NPC interactions: goonies on NES.

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:49 AM

Is Rise of the Tomb Raider a Metroidvania?


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:54 AM

Why can't Metroid crawl?


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

I hate the term "rygarmania" and never use it, so I'm fully in support of Rygarmania.

 

I hate "Metroid-vania" too, worst part is I remember using it a few times back in the early 00s before it caught on, I'd never seen anyone else use it either - if I actually coined the term then I hate myself for it. Rygarmania is much better.

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 12:09 PM

I'm also nearly positive that Sony developed the Playstation purely so you could talk to NPCs in a variety of games.

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 12:09 PM

Sorry, Brain Breaker is thought to be the first alongside Xanadu.

 

Brainadu or Xanker is more like it.

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 12:23 PM

 

I hate the term "rygarmania" and never use it, so I'm fully in support of Rygarmania.

 

I hate "Metroid-vania" too, worst part is I remember using it a few times back in the early 00s before it caught on, I'd never seen anyone else use it either - if I actually coined the term then I hate myself for it. Rygarmania is much better.

 

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I used it in the early days of when it was first coined too, back when it meant "a Castlevania game in the style of Metroid" to distinguish those games from the rest of the Castlevania series. But then the term evolved (or devolved) to mean any game in the style of Metroid, even if it's not a Castlevania game, which I thought was super dumb. (Why even keep the "vania" part then? Why not Metroid-like or some such?). So yeah, I'm old and stubborn and refuse to accept change.

 

Also, "Castleoid" was used interchangeably back in those days. There's gotta be a parallel universe in which that was widely adopted instead.

 

Anyway, back to Rygarmania. Whoever made the word filter is doing god's work.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:21 PM

Sorry, Brain Breaker is thought to be the first alongside Xanadu.

 

Brainadu or Xanker is more like it.

 

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Montezuma's Revenge was a year earlier, I think it's close enough to count.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:46 PM

Rygarmania sounds like a rejected WWF pay-per-view event.

Judging from the criteria of Rygarmania, ActRaiser would fall in line. And Demon's Crest.

I think that the -vania suffix is perfectly valid because Metroid games don't have that much in the way of RPG elements such as item collection, and leveling up. Yeah you "level" up in Super Metroid by acquiring different suits but that's not the same as gaining experience points from combat and increasing the overall stats of your character that happens in Symphony of the Night and virtually the rest of the 2D Castlevania games that came after it. 

I don't think a Rygar game is superior (it's not) than a rygarmania game, but hey, opinions are not objective facts. And we can all enjoy things that are different.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 02:14 PM

I am going to perform a gorilla press drop on the next person who posits "It That Shall Not Be Namedi-as" as rygarmanias. BRAIN BREAKER, XANADU and MONTEZUMA'S REVENGE are NOT rygarmanias!

 

In addition, I already acknowledged Metroid as the first -OID in GAMING.

 

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