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#31 BornInCrimson

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:42 PM

Drink lots of water too. Don't bloat yourself, but it really does help. When I lost my college weight it was due to drinking tons of water and taking fast walks around Green Lake in Seattle because I hate jogging and running.

For replacement of soda I usually get Penguin sugarless Kola gum and Pepsi One.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:54 PM

As addicted as I am to soda I'm doing pretty nicely at cutting back on it... a definite far cry from the 150+ oz. I'd drink in high school... every day. Now unless we eat out I'll have one, maybe two cans a day, if that. Still drink a lot of 1% and skim milk (we keep both in the house, I just drink whatever comes up), and if I know I'm going to be working out I stick strictly to water.

Friend of mine likes to mention how all he drinks is water and how he's healthier than the rest of his family for it... and yes he certainly weighs less and has his teeth in nice order... but he's also incredibly out of shape, he's like a tall, soft oblong blob.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:56 PM

Yeah, water's great and if you really need caffeine I know matsu swears by green tea. I believe it helps the metabolism out too.

Daemon, I don't think there really is an optimum time to eat after you wake up...from what I know, and I may be wrong, once you eat you kickstart your metabolism: sugar levels rise, insulin goes up too, and your body has a new source of energy to make due...if you don't use it, it turns to glycogen (longass strings of sugars) and then into fat (and maybe some intermediate crap too, I don't know/remember. That's why sleeping after eating a meal is bad, you'll just convert it all to fat.

Oh yeah, another thing I need to change in general is having a slightly larger lunch and a much smaller dinner, for reasons stated above.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:07 PM

Ken, do you know what the optimal target time to eat after you get up would be?


Naw, I don't have any specifics. I don't think you're supposed to eat right as you roll out of bed. All I hear is that it's best for your metabolism to work out in the morning, then eat breakfast. Not sure who in the world would go to that extreme. I'm just advocating eating breakfast and not eating within a few hours of going to bed.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:15 PM

I workout half and hour a day at my community college's workout center, every weekday. It's small, I'm one of the few that goes there, and anyone in the building can hear my workout music (ranging from DDR SuperNOVA music to VG music). Fun stuff.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:16 PM

Why does post secondary education make everyone fat?
I didn't get fat.
Maybe it was the hard liquor diet.
I did eat a fuckload of bacon, fried baloney, cheese curds, poutine, donairs and grilled cheese. I bet my veins and arteries could be right fucked if I did that for years. But I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and fibre an shit as well and I was always getting lots of excercise.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:24 PM

Ken, do you know what the optimal target time to eat after you get up would be?


Naw, I don't have any specifics. I don't think you're supposed to eat right as you roll out of bed. All I hear is that it's best for your metabolism to work out in the morning, then eat breakfast. Not sure who in the world would go to that extreme. I'm just advocating eating breakfast and not eating within a few hours of going to bed.


Ah, good call on the working out, a good friend of mine who used to be a male stripper and thus was in quite good shape claims the following: in the morning you should drink a glass of water and then go work out...stretch, do some VERY brief weight training (anythin is fine, like a few reps of chest press or squats or whatever), and then hit the cardio for 30-45 if you can. He says that you have roughly 200 calories that you can burn off very easily (not quite sure why...) and since you have an empty stomach your body will resort to burning fat and other secondary energy sources. THe latter part makes sense to me, but I used to do this simply because I like getting rid of the gym routine as early as possible...sadly, it's a PAIN to get up early enough to get a good workout in the morning before work...

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:52 PM

If I got up and immediately went to the gym I'm probably pass out and get sucked into the treadmill. I usually eat a Odwalla bar before the gym, then a small snack when I get to work.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:19 PM

god, i've got to get back to the gym.

i like the shumway plan. i may try it.

my goal was to lose weight this summer, but i ended up gaining it because i tend to hit the weights hard and consume lots of protein. of course, losing fat and gaining muscle doesn't bother me.

my problem is that i'll go to the gym a lot for 2-3 weeks, then stop going altogether for 2-3 weeks. makes no sense, but its what i always end up doing. i needs to stop this. for reals.

also, my diet is improving (taking my lunch to work everyday and it consists of a peanut butter sandwich and a bunch of fruit - also granola and yogurt). this, coupled with going back to the gym should equal RESULTS.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:41 PM

If I got up and immediately went to the gym I'm probably pass out and get sucked into the treadmill. I usually eat a Odwalla bar before the gym, then a small snack when I get to work.

i on the other hand work out late at night, since it is the only time available to me.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:25 PM

I prefer the night just because I love sleeping in as long as I can.

Also, I really need to have music for any kind of extended workout or constant motivation.. without an iPod or the ability to play CDs or something, I really don't perform nearly as well or go nearly as often.

Today my arms are sore but my pushups are getting better. I wish I could have some kind of chocolate milk after this protein shake, but alas.

I am however going to have a burger, fries and coke on my birthday.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:51 PM

Why does post secondary education make everyone fat?
I didn't get fat.
Maybe it was the hard liquor diet.
I did eat a fuckload of bacon, fried baloney, cheese curds, poutine, donairs and grilled cheese. I bet my veins and arteries could be right fucked if I did that for years. But I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and fibre an shit as well and I was always getting lots of excercise.


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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:59 PM

i too run around green lake. or walk rather. it is about 4 miles i think. damb, peeps be livin' in seattle!


here are some real good excorsise tips. buy a set of drumsticks, and 'air drum' the entire
'toxicity' album by system of a down. it really works those abs!

second buy one of those Chuck norris total gyms, prefferable if you can find one - get the generic one, they total bodyworks 5000. you can get them on sale at big 5 sometimes for 99 bucks. it kicks so much ass. both of these things will make you more appealing to the opposite sex.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 12:59 AM

Good stuff, MrBoglin. I pirated a pdf of that book (hey, I'm in China....ok, I'd probably pirate it anyway) and couldn't believe I hadn't thought about the Door Pull-ups myself. I'm a "Do whatever you can with a floor and 4 walls" kind of guy, but I've always been wanting just a bar of some kind. I think the door will work perfectly.

I'm a martial artist and pretty active with personal, gravity or inertia-based training. I've never had much problem with weight, other than trying to -gain- it, until the last few years when I started to put on a little gut. Not much to complain about, but a warning sign. So, most of my workouts are performance based.

Also, about what MrBoglin said on 6 meals a day, that's potentially more important than calorie intake. I can't believe how many people, girls especially, skip breakfast because they think it'll help them lose weight. It does just the opposite. They really meant it when they said "Breakfast is the most important meal." When you don't eat breakfast, it kills your metabolism, making you sluggish and tired. Then, when you eat lunch, your metabolsm rises and crashes, because your body is trying to conserve energy. The people who don't eat breakfast will most likely eat a large dinner and have a ton of that convery straight to fat.

Where people get confused is if you eat a decent breakfast, you get hungry at lunch. People who don't eat breakfast often cite that you'll just want to eat again soon. The difference is that if you eat breakfast and you get hungry, it means your metabolism is kicking and food you eat actually turns into energy.

The worst case of this that I've seen is this girl. She dates and lives with a guy who's eating habbits are horrible. On a good day she'll get up at 10am, eat something small at 3pm, go to work and then come back from work and eat around 11pm. She'll eat what the dude eats, probably a big plate of pasta and sauce and then go to sleep within the next 2 hours. She's literally doubled her weight within the last 4 years, probably most like tripled. She's getting bigger all the time, bought a dress for a wedding 3 months ago and had to buy another one recently because she's got another wedding to go to.

Another example is Sumo wrestlers. Want to know one way they put on all that fat? They eat a ton and then go to sleep right afterwards. Want to know why opera singers are often fat? Because they sing all day, they can't eat very much during practice or it messes with their breathing and singing. Then, the only chance they get to eat is late at night, before they go to bed.

The jist being, eat often and avoid eating late.




is there anyone i can get that .pdf from you? please pm me.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 02:46 AM

is there anyone i can get that .pdf from you? please pm me.


It's actually a pretty simple and to-the-point book. If you want the rundown, here goes:
1. Reps of more than 6 actually hinder strength development (but increases endurance and can work for cadio, etc.).
2. Doing a bunch of reps a of 1-6 each but, never to the point of failure (until you can't do them anymore) will increase strength the best.
3. A good way to do this is just with one-armed pushups and single-leg squats (aka pistol lifts: sit on the floor with one leg to your chest with the foot on the ground, the other leg entended in front, then try to stand up on the first leg without bending the extended leg).
4. If it's too hard or too easy, you can adjust leverage. If one-armed push-ups are too hard, do them with your hand on a chair. If they are too hard, put your feet on a chair.

From there, it shows how to get you from weakling status to being able to do squats and one-armers and then how to increase the difficulty from there.

This makes a lot of sense to me. Studying a sword martial art some people liked to say that a certain rank should be doing several hundred up to 1000 sword strikes a day. But, when I've seen people that do a lot of strikes, they never did them with a lot of power. I decided that 100 a day was more than a enough, and that the difference should be in how much intensity I put into each strike.

Also, the book does use some weight lifter jargon. For example, he just started talking about http://en.wikipedia....ki/Good-morning without ever explaining himself.

anyway, pm sent.
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