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[finbeard]

so recently Bethesda Softworks put out the above trailer for the latest installment of the Elder Scrolls series. like many, i basically shat myself from how awesome it was and how psyched it got me. i have enjoyed few games as much as i enjoyed Morrowind- it's what got me into next-gen PC gaming to begin with. before Morrowind, i played mostly the classics- Might and Magic, some Ultima, among others. Morrowind really kicked my teeth in with awesome and convinced me that maybe i should try some remotely recent PC games.

speaking in terms of the Elder Scrolls series, i am a long time fan, though i couldn't really get into Oblivion. it just felt kind of weak compared to Morrowind. Skyrim, on the other hand, looks as though it may be a bit closer to Morrowind both visually and in terms of the general tone. i don't want to make wild assumptions, considering that trailer was still pretty vague gameplay-footage-wise, but hey, it's a new Elder Scrolls game, and i know this november i will be getting my freak on all month with it. what about y'all?



oh yeah, and then there's this.

[clansmaneddie]

i am excited, though im gonna try to refrain from seeing any kind of preview before hand so that when i acquire skyrim it will take my spirt away to another dimension

[Demonstray]

I love how the highest rated comment on YouTube for the original trailer was something like "I don't care how bad the graphics turn out, as long as my character doesn't run like a retard" for about a month.

[Shoe]

I had basically the exact same reaction. I was at work when I saw the trailer and my boner shot through an inch and a half of high-quality compressed cubicle particle board. I can't remember how many times I played through Morrowind and its expansions... so good.

A little reserved about Skyrim, though. The trailer looks AMAZING but I keep catching hints of awkward Oblivion animations here and there. Which honestly, won't break the game for me as long as it achieves the same "feel" as Morrowind. I was just really let down by Oblivion, for whatever reason. Was super hyped up for it as well, but in the end didn't like it nearly as much. I think it had to do with the enemies scaling and the random dungeons being way too huge sometimes.. and nearly always the exact same art.

[Shervz0r]

I was hopeful until I heard that Bethesda are still sticking to their awful monster/treasure leveling system. Assuming that's true, ugh...it took a ton of fun out of Morrowind and Oblivion for me. Daggerfall was the same way but somehow it felt better implemented or not so glaringly obvious. That said, I'll definitely check this game out, been an Elder Scrolls fan since Arena, but I just wish they would get rid of the leveled-lists bullshit. It's so great to become a badass in an RPG by finding great armor or weapons earlier than normal (e.g. in Dragon Warrior going to Haukness or wherever it is and beating the Axe Armor to get Erdrick's Armor when you're a lover level).

edit: Shoe, right on with your last sentence. I really liked the traps and such in Oblivion but the fact that everything was random made everything eventually feel the same.

[Djinnocide]

I logged about 100 hours with Oblivion, so if they can make Skyrim half as good I'll be a happy camper. Unfortunately, I don't have the same time to play games as I did back when, and this realization just dawned on me, so now I'm going to go put my head in an oven.

[DeathMask]

This looks sexy enough, but I'm afraid I won't be able to get into it. I have yet to hit 3 hours in Oblivion.

[GENTLYPORKING]

Looking forward to another buggy game that will crash constantly... Hey, how about they fix New Vegas so I can acually fisish the damn game before moving on to the next one?

[mrtame]

I am excited. But I would be more so if there was a chance in hell that I'll have a computer that can run it by then, which there isnt.

[Norrin_Radd]

I too, was much more excited before I found out they are bringing back the scaled loot and monsters. Just fucking retarded. Stop trying to cater to people who wander to the edge of no where right off the start of the game. We do that because we want the thrill of finding powerful loot. Not to fight crabs in the final dungeon with a bronze dagger.

[Shoe]

I think I read somewhere that they're doing a more Morrowind-ish version of the scaling, definitely reduced as compared to Oblivion.

But yeah, I will mod the shit out of this instantly if it ends up being as bad as Oblivion. One of my favorite things to do in Morrowind was running off (I forget where now... maybe the fighters guild?), breaking into a basement, and stealing a full set of glass armor, setting myself up for pretty much the rest of the game.

[David R. Gumby]

Looking forward to another buggy game that will crash constantly... Hey, how about they fix New Vegas so I can acually fisish the damn game before moving on to the next one?

Wrong company, Obsidian did New Vegas.
Bethesda have probably been working on Skyrim since they finished Fallout 3.

I too, was much more excited before I found out they are bringing back the scaled loot and monsters. Just fucking retarded. Stop trying to cater to people who wander to the edge of no where right off the start of the game. We do that because we want the thrill of finding powerful loot. Not to fight crabs in the final dungeon with a bronze dagger.

I didn't think the scaled monsters in Oblivion were nearly as bad as people made them out to be. The monster scaling was perfectly fine, there were plenty of enemies that killed you easily in one hit and took 60.000 hits to kill on lower levels, the first things that pop into my head are those fucking mountain lions, then there were the zombies and i also seem to remember being mad at a lot of skeletons. And since all the monsters had level caps you don't feel underpowered at the higher levels, I sometimes actually felt way too powerful, mostly since people acted like i was some regular run-of-the-mill hero while I was actually more like a god I had gotten so powerful. Dudes were coming up to me claiming to be the most powerful this or that in the entire lands but i just stabbed them twice and they were dead.....and on fire probably.


BUT the scaled loot was totally ridiculous, Deadric armor on some wussy highway robber was a bit much, especially since i killed him by glancing in his general direction.

[the Wozz]

HEY! IM EXCITED AS SHIT ABOUT THIS GAME. I'M READY FOR ADVENTURE.

[mrtame]

my issue with the mob scaling was how it could get lopsided too easily. Depending on your class you could level up so quick yo would end up fighting hard monsters with completely ineffective equipment.

[Norrin_Radd]

Edit: Word, Tame.

The problem with the scaled levels in Oblivion had a lot to do with the level system itself. The fucked up way they gave you bonus points to spend on your attributes was ludicrous.

Stop me if you've heard this before.

I picked a Thief, with Lock picking, Sneaking etc as my major skills. I would go up levels in my major skills so rapidly that I would never be able to put more than a +1 toward any attribute that might help me in battle. Even if I always put my bonus attribute points into strength (some thief...), my Thief would still not do enough damage to survive because a +1 every level is not nearly as strong as a +4.

By the time I got to level 19 (which was very early game due to how much thieving I had been doing, using Major Skills), every enemy in the game was destroying me. As a core Thief, I would enter a dungeon or a town, and bank up so many Major Skill level ups, that I would usually have 5 level ups waiting for me the next time I used a bed.

I distinctly remember the last time I levelled up. I went from like level 13 to level 19, thinking leveling up was good because I would be more powerful. Unfortunately, the second I stepped back out on to the world map, I was assaulted by mystical creatures that were light years more prepared for combat than I was. I had to start duping paralyze potions, and freezing my enemies over and over in order to survive. Not too mention the amount of damage I was doing was the equivalent of taking a level 1 character right to the final dungeon of a JRPG.

Tell me that is not the definition of busted. Making every random encounter as hard as taking a level 1 character to the final dungeon. That is the opposite of balance.