Alright, so this is the biggest community of chiptune makers that I know of. I made a chiptune in Famitracker (FTM) to turn in for a class, but found out that the teacher is only accepting Fasttracker (XM) file format. I really don't want to go through and re-track the entire song, so I gotta figure out a way to get my FTM to an XM file. FTM export to NSF is just about perfect, too, so NSF to a mod filetype would work.
I tried FTM to NSF, then using NSF2MIDI to a MIDI, then importing the MIDI into OpenMPT... that was a disaster...
Any ideas before I say "fuck it" and just import the song wav file as a single instrument and most likely fail the assignment?
Mod tracker conversion. Halp.
Started by IBBIAZ, Oct 03 2011 08:11 PM
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:26 PM
Man, if NSF2MIDI didn't work out for you, I don't know what to say.
I'm sure others have more advice, though. Everyone else here always seems to have sneaky, expert tricks.
I'm sure others have more advice, though. Everyone else here always seems to have sneaky, expert tricks.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:30 PM
You say disaster, I say next big rave hit.
Sorry I cannot help any further.
Sorry I cannot help any further.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:32 PM
Man, if NSF2MIDI didn't work out for you, I don't know what to say.
I'm sure others have more advice, though. Everyone else here always seems to have sneaky, expert tricks.
Well, actually, NSF2MIDI worked alright. It wasn't great, but it was tolerable. But for whatever reason, this MIDI file, when imported into OpenMPT destroyed worlds.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:33 PM
I'm pretty sure you're going to have to redo it, Famitracker is pretty specialized. When is it due? You already composed the song (for me always the hardest part), so is retracking it really a bigger pain in the ass than failing the assignment?
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:36 PM
Nario, here's the MIDI from NSF2MIDI, like I said - it's not bad. wtf is up with that bass, though, I have no idea.
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.mid
Jace, while I would agree with you on the FTM front, having an NSF (and subsequently a shitty MIDI) seems very promising for the cause. I Have to get this shit in by tomorrow, and I still have to score out a whole cue and its parts for another class's studio session tonight.
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.mid
Jace, while I would agree with you on the FTM front, having an NSF (and subsequently a shitty MIDI) seems very promising for the cause. I Have to get this shit in by tomorrow, and I still have to score out a whole cue and its parts for another class's studio session tonight.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:43 PM
So is Famitracker the only tracker that can import NSFs? (and only with the mod version...)
If I can get another program that imports NSFs and can save, say, an S3M, then I can open that in OpenMPT and resave it as an XM.
If I can get another program that imports NSFs and can save, say, an S3M, then I can open that in OpenMPT and resave it as an XM.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:49 PM
Aesthetically, I don't blame (and even applaud) you for taking on Famitracker. Unfortunately, not only is it the only tracker I'm aware of that imports NSF files, but even Famitracker itself has only been able to do so in a few short months of its 6+ year history and when that happened it was this gargantuan, Rosetta Stone-like crack.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 09:13 PM
Awesome, thanks a ton bro. Let me know how you end up getting it done, too, dude!
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.ftm
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.nsf
Seriously, lifesaver. I've been just trying to get this damn wav to loop in the correct amount of rows in OpenMPT (some tempo differencial between the two programs, I guess...)
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.ftm
http://dl.dropbox.co...on Robonaut.nsf
Seriously, lifesaver. I've been just trying to get this damn wav to loop in the correct amount of rows in OpenMPT (some tempo differencial between the two programs, I guess...)
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 09:17 PM
ok heres the thing
i asked around...and it seems like you are somewhat shit outta luck here. there are converters that do .s3m to .nsf, but that doesnt help here. my advice to you would be to do one of two things: 1) look around and see if you can find a .ftm/.nsf->.s3m converter of some sort. then convert from .s3m to .xm in modplug/schism. if this doesnt work, then 2) open famitracker and modplug tracker at the same time, try and cut/paste your pattern data from fami into modplug, then save as an .it, then open it in schism and clean your work up in there, and finally save as .xm. theres not a whole lot you can do but on a surface search, i aint seein a whole lot of options for ya, ya done goofed ibbz..
why the f did you do a whole assignment in fami if you knew the teacher was expecting it in .xm format, did you know this from the beginning? if so, then youve earned the grade you get because you didnt do your research and at least ask in the chiptune thread or something. there has been at least some development in these cross-tracker converters, but doing what you're tryin to do here is a lil beyond the scope of what can be done. i even asked kev who made .nsf and he has no clue of what you can do in this situation. its usually going the opposite way that ppl want.
i asked around...and it seems like you are somewhat shit outta luck here. there are converters that do .s3m to .nsf, but that doesnt help here. my advice to you would be to do one of two things: 1) look around and see if you can find a .ftm/.nsf->.s3m converter of some sort. then convert from .s3m to .xm in modplug/schism. if this doesnt work, then 2) open famitracker and modplug tracker at the same time, try and cut/paste your pattern data from fami into modplug, then save as an .it, then open it in schism and clean your work up in there, and finally save as .xm. theres not a whole lot you can do but on a surface search, i aint seein a whole lot of options for ya, ya done goofed ibbz..
why the f did you do a whole assignment in fami if you knew the teacher was expecting it in .xm format, did you know this from the beginning? if so, then youve earned the grade you get because you didnt do your research and at least ask in the chiptune thread or something. there has been at least some development in these cross-tracker converters, but doing what you're tryin to do here is a lil beyond the scope of what can be done. i even asked kev who made .nsf and he has no clue of what you can do in this situation. its usually going the opposite way that ppl want.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 09:27 PM
Haha, okay, I guess you're rescinding your offer, then?
I did the project in Famitracker because I had never done a chiptune before. This was literally the first time I had ever opened a tracker. I knew the sound I wanted, and Famitracker seemed the best route to get that sound. It wasn't until I was about finished that I was actually talking to Auriplane, who mentioned that tracker filetypes are basically unique to the different trackers. And even then, I didn't realize the barriers I would face trying to get it from one into the other. I figured the FTM > NSF > MID > XM would solve the issues, and when it didn't, well, I was out of options other that resampling the whole song, or redoing the entire project in another tracker, which I'm just as unfamiliar with as I was with Famitracker when I started.
I searched around, and am having no such like trying to get NSF to S3M. Like you said, I found a way to get S3m > NSF, but not the other way around. That's why I made this thread - to see if there was some filetype conversion that I might be missing that I can try, in order to get the final XM filetype.
I totally did done goof.
EDIT: The reason I got the idea I could use any tracker I pleased was the way the teacher put "I don't care what tracker you use. Just turn in an XM file and I don't care what you used to make it." So I assumed that these things were interchangeable, and it would be like producing a MIDI file or something, where basically any program could pop one out.
I did the project in Famitracker because I had never done a chiptune before. This was literally the first time I had ever opened a tracker. I knew the sound I wanted, and Famitracker seemed the best route to get that sound. It wasn't until I was about finished that I was actually talking to Auriplane, who mentioned that tracker filetypes are basically unique to the different trackers. And even then, I didn't realize the barriers I would face trying to get it from one into the other. I figured the FTM > NSF > MID > XM would solve the issues, and when it didn't, well, I was out of options other that resampling the whole song, or redoing the entire project in another tracker, which I'm just as unfamiliar with as I was with Famitracker when I started.
I searched around, and am having no such like trying to get NSF to S3M. Like you said, I found a way to get S3m > NSF, but not the other way around. That's why I made this thread - to see if there was some filetype conversion that I might be missing that I can try, in order to get the final XM filetype.
I totally did done goof.
EDIT: The reason I got the idea I could use any tracker I pleased was the way the teacher put "I don't care what tracker you use. Just turn in an XM file and I don't care what you used to make it." So I assumed that these things were interchangeable, and it would be like producing a MIDI file or something, where basically any program could pop one out.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:09 PM
Haha, okay, I guess you're rescinding your offer, then?
I did the project in Famitracker because I had never done a chiptune before. This was literally the first time I had ever opened a tracker. I knew the sound I wanted, and Famitracker seemed the best route to get that sound. It wasn't until I was about finished that I was actually talking to Auriplane, who mentioned that tracker filetypes are basically unique to the different trackers. And even then, I didn't realize the barriers I would face trying to get it from one into the other. I figured the FTM > NSF > MID > XM would solve the issues, and when it didn't, well, I was out of options other that resampling the whole song, or redoing the entire project in another tracker, which I'm just as unfamiliar with as I was with Famitracker when I started.
I searched around, and am having no such like trying to get NSF to S3M. Like you said, I found a way to get S3m > NSF, but not the other way around. That's why I made this thread - to see if there was some filetype conversion that I might be missing that I can try, in order to get the final XM filetype.
I totally did done goof.
EDIT: The reason I got the idea I could use any tracker I pleased was the way the teacher put "I don't care what tracker you use. Just turn in an XM file and I don't care what you used to make it." So I assumed that these things were interchangeable, and it would be like producing a MIDI file or something, where basically any program could pop one out.
wellll lemme say this...you picked the wrong tracker to start with, hehe. didnt you see us posting about the 8bit sampleset .it modules that bucky made? we made chain chips out of them and stuff. you gotta ask about these sorts of things when it comes to trackers. now were at the point of no return and its possible, but this is gonna be a big thing. it IS possible to do this, i believe...but its going to seriously be a matter of what is the best option.
and im not rescinding an offer, if we can get it to work we'll make it work. it might not be possible to bruteforce that .ftm code and crunch it into ft tracker code...yet. im researching and asking around about what would have to be done here, but if you copy the pattern data, or try to, into modplug (not schism), it may work. depends on how many fx channels you used. if you can get the pattern data into there, i can match the actual chips. you can always just try this: export as wav from famitracker. use audacity/soundforge/meatshop to cut up the file into one measure parts. then do it in schism tracker and save as .xm, and youre done. throw some vibratos or panning on it.
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