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#13066 Tim 200X

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

Currently trying to buy a 5150 212 combo off craigslist. Hope to hear back something tomorrow. If not, I may go with a 6505+ 112 combo listed tonight.

If you buy it, bring a forklift. They sound amazing, but good lawd are they heavy.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

Good thing it has casters on it.

I have to wait until Saturday to check it out and possibly buy it.
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#13068 Wyatt Riot

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

Just got this beauty. Plays like a dream, and after retubing and biasing my amp yesterday it absolutely sings.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:26 PM

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#13070 John MFer

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:00 AM

NNNNNIIIIIIICCCCCCCEEEEE. Love the white SGs, they're so sexy. Tell us more!! Where'd you get it? What pickups are in it?

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

witness the death of my '85 japanese strat
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fucking awesome!!!!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:44 AM

Nice SG, how old is it?

I didn't end up buying that LP Jr. copy. I went back to look at it and it was clear the pickups weren't P90s. They were humbucker-sized clones of a P90, most likely original. Anyway, I didn't really like how it played, and they were only going to give me $100 for my Epiphone, so I passed. Speaking of SGs though, while I was there a guy brought in a beautiful '78 SG in a rare tobacco burst color. All original, and in good shape overall, but it needed a refret badly. I asked him how much he wanted for it and he said he'd take no less than $1200, which was too much if you ask me, considering that it barely played. I didn't stick around long enough to see if he sold it or what, but it sure was pretty. I think I'll ask about it next time I'm there.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:52 AM

It's a new (made in 2011) Gibson SG Standard Limited. Pickups are stock 490R/498T and I love them so far. (I'm getting Bare Knuckle Nailbombs put in my Warmoth SG, so I'll have to see how how that sounds; I may put a set into this one in the future.) It's got a standard "rounded" neck, but it feels like they cut this one pretty thin, which is fine by me. Because Gibson is essentially unable to get rosewood, the fingerboard is "baked maple", which is smooth and hard like maple and (apparently) will darken up to look like ebony once treated with lemon oil.

This is hands down the best guitar I've owned. I'm still in that new guitar dizzy/woozy stage, but that could be the results of outgassing nitrocellulose lacquer as well. :blink:

On another note: my Warmoth SG should be done sometime this week, so I'll get some pictures up. I bought these two from my tax refund and profit sharing at work, but I've still got a bad case of Guitar Acquisition Syndrome and I'm considering another Warmoth build. That one's coming right out of my pocket so it's going to be a tough decision.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:05 AM

witness the death of my '85 japanese strat
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fucking awesome!!!!

Well, if it had to go out, that would be the way to do it. I loved the neck on that thing! I don't suppose that part of it is salvageable is it?

One of my 1st guitarra "projects" was putting the neck from that guitar on my old Japanese Jazzmaster, before it was blue. Do you remember why, Fred? I wore down the frets on the original neck so bad that I bought another neck for it, was I using your strat neck in the meantime? It was only for like a few weeks if I remember correctly.

It's a new (made in 2011) Gibson SG Standard Limited. Pickups are stock 490R/498T and I love them so far. (I'm getting Bare Knuckle Nailbombs put in my Warmoth SG, so I'll have to see how how that sounds; I may put a set into this one in the future.) It's got a standard "rounded" neck, but it feels like they cut this one pretty thin, which is fine by me. Because Gibson is essentially unable to get rosewood, the fingerboard is "baked maple", which is smooth and hard like maple and (apparently) will darken up to look like ebony once treated with lemon oil.

This is hands down the best guitar I've owned. I'm still in that new guitar dizzy/woozy stage, but that could be the results of outgassing nitrocellulose lacquer as well. :blink:

On another note: my Warmoth SG should be done sometime this week, so I'll get some pictures up. I bought these two from my tax refund and profit sharing at work, but I've still got a bad case of Guitar Acquisition Syndrome and I'm considering another Warmoth build. That one's coming right out of my pocket so it's going to be a tough decision.

Wow! That's awesome. Gotta keep the pics flowing as we all want to live vicariously with both the new guitar days and the projects. I'm really curious about the baked maple fretboards. The purists are all up in arms but I think it's a pretty cool idea.

I'm sort of new to Gibson still. You have 490R/498T. The 490s have Alnico 2 magnets just like 57 classics, and also just like Burstbuckers 1, 2, and 3. 498T is a 490T with an A5 magnet. Burstbucker Pro is a Burstbucker 2 (I think) with an Alnico 5 magnet. Also, they advertise the 490s as being like a 57 classic but hotter with more upper mids (which would work well in a SG I would think) which is sort of how they advertise the Burstbuckers (2,3) as sounding as well. Gah, pickups! They're maddening.

In my guitarra news, Sunday I swapped the 57 Classic back into the neck of the LP. I had to flip the magnet to get the phasing correct, but man, it sounds great, way better than the DGT neck, and together the pickups sound fantastic. I really wish I could have paid half and gotten just the DGT bridge pickup like I wanted to in the 1st place. Maybe I'll use the DGT neck as a bridge pickup in the Santana or something. It's got the low end covered very well and that's what that guitar could use.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:21 PM

498T is a 490T with an A5 magnet. Burstbucker Pro is a Burstbucker 2 (I think) with an Alnico 5 magnet.

Not really. A 498T is nothing like a 490. Think of the 490 as Gibson's version of the Pearly Gates, just slightly hotter than a standard PAF type. The 498 is more like a JB or Duncan Custom. Essentially a high output rock pickup. Here's some handy info from Gibson:
Pickup magnet ohms
490T Alnico II 8.5k
490R Alnico II 8.5k
496R Ceramic 8.6k
498T Alnico V 13.8k
500T Ceramic 14.8k
57 Classic Alnico II 8.5k PAF sticker
57 Classic Plus Alnico II 8.7k PAF sticker
Burstbucker #1 Alnico II 8k PAF sticker
BurstBucker #2 Alnico II 8.5k PAF sticker
Burstbucker #3 Alnico II 8.8k PAF sticker
Burstbucker Pro (#5) Alnico V 8.2k neck and 8.7k bridge PAF sticker
Dirty Fingers 3 ceramic 16k
P-90 Alnico V 8.8k
P-94R Alnico 7.3k

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:19 PM


498T is a 490T with an A5 magnet. Burstbucker Pro is a Burstbucker 2 (I think) with an Alnico 5 magnet.

Not really. A 498T is nothing like a 490. Think of the 490 as Gibson's version of the Pearly Gates, just slightly hotter than a standard PAF type. The 498 is more like a JB or Duncan Custom. Essentially a high output rock pickup. Here's some handy info from Gibson:
Pickup magnet ohms
490T Alnico II 8.5k
490R Alnico II 8.5k
496R Ceramic 8.6k
498T Alnico V 13.8k
500T Ceramic 14.8k
57 Classic Alnico II 8.5k PAF sticker
57 Classic Plus Alnico II 8.7k PAF sticker
Burstbucker #1 Alnico II 8k PAF sticker
BurstBucker #2 Alnico II 8.5k PAF sticker
Burstbucker #3 Alnico II 8.8k PAF sticker
Burstbucker Pro (#5) Alnico V 8.2k neck and 8.7k bridge PAF sticker
Dirty Fingers 3 ceramic 16k
P-90 Alnico V 8.8k
P-94R Alnico 7.3k

That IS handy info, thanks.

So what's the difference between a 490T and a 57 classic? Maybe the PAF sticker on the bottom of the 57 smooths out the tones. I wish there was some definitive info on the web that showed exactly how you can make two humbuckers with the same magnets/wire/turns/other specs and make them sound different in a repeatable manner.

#13077 Big Jilm

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:22 PM

In the big scheme of things, probably not a lot of difference. The '57 may have a longer magnet and use a different coating on the wire. You'd probably have to tear down both and measure everything with a good micrometer and do a materials analysis to really nail the differences......if any. I'm not sure that Gibson uses the 490T much anymore?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:23 PM

Speaking of the Warmoth, my guitar shop just called and my custom was ready.

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Warmoth SG. Custom mahogany body with vintage white finish, Gotoh Wilkinson tremolo, Bare Knuckle Nailbomb A5 pickups. Custom mahogany neck with clear satin finish, thin profile, indian rosewood fingerboard with 24 stainless steel frets, GraphTech TUSQ XL nut, Schaller mini locking tuners.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:13 PM

I started repainting my yellow RG because I want to put some clear coat on it to seal it, and the old bare paint was getting grimy. Here's a shot of the primer and first coat of rustoleum neon green :P
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I ordered a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles decal for the headstock, the trem cavity is masked so it'll be yellow, and I'm trying to decide on the color for the pickups and knobs. I'm thinking red/white/red for the pickups, yellow knobs, and a red switch cap. I was considering a crunch lab and liquifire for the buckers. Any single coils that'd go nice with them?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:34 PM

I was considering a crunch lab and liquifire for the buckers. Any single coils that'd go nice with them?

I will have a very lightly used pair of those pickups quite soon- they are coming out of an RG. There's a Dimarzio Area of some kind in the middle but I don't know/remember what it is.



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