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#1 DiscountBabyJam Mike

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 11:00 AM

There's been this wave of guitarists in metal bands, some even replacing old members in CLASSIC metal bands i.e. MEGADETH -> CHRIS BRODERICK who use seven string guitars. Seven strings are the lair of prog metal. I don't think they should be used in thrash metal bands. If they are it is a little bit of an offense to classic THRASH metal bands. The lower 6 strings are the same as a regular guitar but you know these guys can't resist using that FAT FART low seventh string. I don't think people should use seven string guitars in thrash metal, and especially not if they're filling in for older guitarists like MARTY FRIEDMAN who wrote and played the parts on six strings. I think they should keep those shits out of thrash metal.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 11:04 AM

If you ask me, any thrash band that has two guitar players should only be using 3-stringed guitars. One guitar player uses the lower 3 strings, the other uses the higher 3 strings.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 11:05 AM

If you ask me, any thrash band that has two guitar players should only be using 3-stringed guitars. One guitar player uses the lower 3 strings, the other uses the higher 3 strings.

 

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 11:19 AM

what could you possibly need 7 strings for?
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Posted 22 September 2015 - 11:20 AM

There's been this wave of guitarists in metal bands, some even replacing old members in CLASSIC metal bands i.e. MEGADETH -> CHRIS BRODERICK who use seven string guitars. Seven strings are the lair of prog metal. I don't think they should be used in thrash metal bands. If they are it is a little bit of an offense to classic THRASH metal bands. The lower 6 strings are the same as a regular guitar but you know these guys can't resist using that FAT FART low seventh string. I don't think people should use seven string guitars in thrash metal, and especially not if they're filling in for older guitarists like MARTY FRIEDMAN who wrote and played the parts on six strings. I think they should keep those shits out of thrash metal.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 12:03 PM

Other than Slayer what other thrash bands use a 7-string guitar? I'd say that lower tunings (anything below a whole step standard) and 7-strings don't really fit with thrash metal since those tones are bass heavy and it's venturing into death metal territory. At the same time, the style of riffs indicate the sub-genre and when Slayer uses a 7-string or C# for their songs they really don't sound like thrash metal. But if a band can pull it off with a 7-string then so be it. I've just personally haven't heard of any thrash bands that use 7-strings outside of Slayer.

 

Nevermore is mentioned in the tags and while Jeff Loomis used 7-strings starting on Dead Heart in a Dead World, they're not exclusively thrash so that gives them some leeway. And as far as I know, Megadeth doesn't use 7-strings although I know they've been detuning recently so that Mustaine can hit the right notes while staying in key.

 

But if this is a stupid 7-string vs. 6-string argument it's pointless. Whatever the band wants to use to achieve their sound and what inspires them then so be it. I personally love 7-strings and 8-strings have grown on me. What bothers me is the tone that a lot of modern bands use especially bands that are classified as djent.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:18 PM

if anyone brings djent into this i hate you


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:38 PM

I'm sorry, but if you CLAIM to be a THRASH band and play SEVEN strings then you are a POUSER.  Haven't you ever heard of VENOM and BLESSED DEATH, they didn't use seven STRINGS.  You might as WELL quit listening to thrash METAL because you are DISGRACE to the genre that our FOREFATHERS without sevEN STrings created on February 7th 1982


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 04:29 PM

Other than Slayer what other thrash bands use a 7-string guitar? I'd say that lower tunings (anything below a whole step standard) and 7-strings don't really fit with thrash metal since those tones are bass heavy and it's venturing into death metal territory. At the same time, the style of riffs indicate the sub-genre and when Slayer uses a 7-string or C# for their songs they really don't sound like thrash metal. But if a band can pull it off with a 7-string then so be it. I've just personally haven't heard of any thrash bands that use 7-strings outside of Slayer.

 

Nevermore is mentioned in the tags and while Jeff Loomis used 7-strings starting on Dead Heart in a Dead World, they're not exclusively thrash so that gives them some leeway. And as far as I know, Megadeth doesn't use 7-strings although I know they've been detuning recently so that Mustaine can hit the right notes while staying in key.

 

But if this is a stupid 7-string vs. 6-string argument it's pointless. Whatever the band wants to use to achieve their sound and what inspires them then so be it. I personally love 7-strings and 8-strings have grown on me. What bothers me is the tone that a lot of modern bands use especially bands that are classified as djent.

 

Why not 9? 10? Why not two full octaves, 16 string pedal steel looking monstrosities? Are you saying you want KERRY KING of thrash metal titans SLAYER playing a damn CHAPMAN STICK on stage at WACKEN? Hell! At that point why not just have the whole damn band besides the drummer run PIANOS into MARSHALL JCM 800s?!

 

What I'm saying is that THRASH METAL and METAL in general is a genre built on tradition; denim and leather, not cracker jack clothes. Not damn SEVEN STRING GUITARS and Roland GR-55s playing PAD SYNTHS and that CLAPPING or WOOD BLOCK SOUND EFFECT on $30 CASIO KEYBOARDS.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 05:26 PM

VOMITRON was THRASHY and used 7-STRINGS. Also PAD SYNTHS and all that other CRAP including a SLIDE WHISTLE


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 05:49 PM

Most of the time I hate 7 string guitars, but when I am proven wrong that is great for me! For the most part I think they encourage shitty songwriting. I prefer my thrash with 6 strings.

 

Thrash VGM (does this exist any more) should get a pass because so many VGM songs are written with low Cs in them.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 05:53 PM

The word "thrash" has six letters. That answers that.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 05:55 PM

Another thing to consider.


Vektor, the culmination of all good aspects of thrash as we know it, tunes up a half step to F standard on 6 strings.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:33 PM

Another thing to consider.


Vektor, the culmination of all good aspects of thrash as we know it, tunes up a half step to F standard on 6 strings.

 

 

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Other than Slayer what other thrash bands use a 7-string guitar? I'd say that lower tunings (anything below a whole step standard) and 7-strings don't really fit with thrash metal since those tones are bass heavy and it's venturing into death metal territory. At the same time, the style of riffs indicate the sub-genre and when Slayer uses a 7-string or C# for their songs they really don't sound like thrash metal. But if a band can pull it off with a 7-string then so be it. I've just personally haven't heard of any thrash bands that use 7-strings outside of Slayer.

 

Nevermore is mentioned in the tags and while Jeff Loomis used 7-strings starting on Dead Heart in a Dead World, they're not exclusively thrash so that gives them some leeway. And as far as I know, Megadeth doesn't use 7-strings although I know they've been detuning recently so that Mustaine can hit the right notes while staying in key.

 

But if this is a stupid 7-string vs. 6-string argument it's pointless. Whatever the band wants to use to achieve their sound and what inspires them then so be it. I personally love 7-strings and 8-strings have grown on me. What bothers me is the tone that a lot of modern bands use especially bands that are classified as djent.

 

Why not 9? 10? Why not two full octaves, 16 string pedal steel looking monstrosities? Are you saying you want KERRY KING of thrash metal titans SLAYER playing a damn CHAPMAN STICK on stage at WACKEN?

 

 

Actually, that'd be pretty fucking cool.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 08:02 PM


What I'm saying is that THRASH METAL and METAL in general is a genre built on tradition; denim and leather


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