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#16 The Real Jeffrey Lebowski

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 04:44 PM

CREDO To Send Coat Hangers To Pro-Choice Dems Who Voted For Abortion Restriction Amendment
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#17 Jacki O.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 11:37 AM

that's awesome! i have credo!

i love it. i recommend it.
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 02:11 PM

i think the Dems have shot themselves in the foot with this healthcare bill.

They wanted it to be their great 20th century legislative success but allowing these anti-choice amendments to be attached to the bill is killing it.

i dont support this healthcare bill until these anti-choice amendments are stripped from the bill.

Until then i will encourage my senators to vote against the bill (which they will bc c'mon it's McCain and Kyle! those two are douchefaecs)
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 02:20 PM

looks like Senator Reid's drafting of the bill left out the Stupak Amendment!

it's still shitty (no federal funding for abortion) but it's a start.

anytime anti-choice/freedom organizations like National Right to Life hate legislation on reproductive healthcare - that's a good thing.

they called Reid's draft "unacceptable"

yay! :)
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 02:38 PM

When Lou Dobbs was on the Daily Show the other night, he made the comment that most Americans are opposed to the health care bill. Ok. As a statement like that it might be fact. But in context of the conversation and the greater context of the bill itself I think it's a lame statement.

What I think he may have been trying to imply is that most Americans are opposed to health care reform, and Stewart was even hinting at this being false. There is a very big difference between people who are opposed to a certain aspect of the bill and people who are just opposed to health care reform in general.

It sucks that the anti-anti-abortion people are getting lumped in with the "deyterkerjerbs" people or the people who are just wholly opposed for whatever reasons.

Jacki is probably opposed to only 1% of the bill, but in terms of "support" is being lumped with the people who oppose 100% of it. Many people opposed to some aspect of the bill actually want a bill, so it's a very skewed perspective on the issue.
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:07 PM

very true. And yesterday if someone had polled me and asked simply "are you opposed to the healthcare bill that was passed in the house?" i would have said yes (bc of the stupak amendment). Then they probably would have released the poll saying that 73% of americans are opposed to the bill. It's all about playing with numbers (and lou dobbs is fuckface).

Organizations and people do that with a lot of abortion polls and studies, they ask these bad questions, get yes or no answers and then flout statistics that say so and so % of americans think abortion is wrong.


i know it sucks and it's sad that many many women were not in support of the that form of the bill but it was because of one tiny change to the bill.

you can't take away women's access to affordable abortions (or abortions at all) and think that the majority of women will support that. it was a total bullshit move that put a lot of democratic party supporters or at least voters in with the assholes who oppose the bill for reasons other than the issue of abortion.

i didnt see what was so progressive about that version of the bill, it grants lots of people healthcare which is awesome but at the same time it stripped millions of people's access to a certain type of medical procedure because a few men in D.C. personally believed that procedure to be "immoral"

thankfully it was removed from the bill in the senate
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:33 PM

Cases for abortion services that are excluded: where the health but not the life of the woman is threatened by the pregnancy, severe fetal abnormalities, mental illness or anguish that will lead to suicide or self-harm, and the numerous other reasons women need to have an abortion.



Pro-Life until you're born, right? Fuckers.

Ha! No shit. Coddle the fetus, but make sure the infant and parents can't get affordable or government-subsidized quality healthcare. The GOP and "Moderate Democrat" credo. I'm amazed by how far right "moderate" actually is.

This is really scary. Check out what our neighbors in Nevada are up to.

http://www.personhoodnevada.com/
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:34 PM

here are some signs i am going to make when i go to my next abortion clinic protest:


ORPHANS NOT ABORTIONS!

ABORTIONS ARE FOR PUSSIES!

I'M A WOMAN AND I HATE MYSELF
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:40 PM

looks like Senator Reid's drafting of the bill left out the Stupak Amendment!

it's still shitty (no federal funding for abortion) but it's a start.

anytime anti-choice/freedom organizations like National Right to Life hate legislation on reproductive healthcare - that's a good thing.

they called Reid's draft "unacceptable"

yay! :)

You gotta respect Reid on this one. He's getting killed in the polls by his Republican rivals but still had the nerve to scrap the Stupak Amendment.

Fuck the Personhood Amendment!
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 04:02 PM

"deyterkerjerbs"

DEYTERKERJERBS!!!
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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:17 PM

Breaking News: Joe Lieberman is still a shithead!

So much rage...Not. Enough. Words.

Fuck you Joe Lieberman.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 04:22 PM

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#28 The Real Jeffrey Lebowski

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 10:40 PM

I love Bernie Sanders.


This whole Senate bill got Liebermaned into quite the shit-pile. Mandating that people purchase shit insurance from shit private companies who can still stop covering if you exceed your limit (now it'll be annual instead of lifetime), and can still charge you 300% more for pre-existing condition (even if you can't be cancelled)? Brilliant!

I don't know...The Senate is so fucked as a governing institution...There's some really great ones, but there's a hell of a lot of buttholes too.
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Posted 17 December 2009 - 06:08 PM

Al Franken feeds Joe Lieberman a shit sandwich, McCain cries about it, and I get a boner:



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Posted 24 December 2009 - 10:43 AM

Sorry we ruined your birthday Jesus:


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