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[Jacki O.]

interesting article from the Guardian


Feminism demands a complete overhaul of how we think, how we behave, how we talk, where we work, what media we consume, how we vote and how we raise our families. For women and for men, feminism is a dramatic shift away from the way things have always been. That's why it's so thrilling – and so threatening.

Unfortunately, despite the enormous strides we have made towards gender equality, that overhaul is far from complete. In a country where only 17% of Congress is female, where women – with or without children – make 77% what men make a decade after finishing their education and where only 6% of rapists will serve jail time, we can't afford "not a feminist, but …" – a disclaimer that signals to the world that we're willing to settle for an incomplete overhaul.

[differently biotic]

I consider myself a feminist and a lot of people usually say "oh you're one of THOSE women" when I declare myself a feminist out loud. Like it's a bad thing. That's so ridiculous! I don't hate men. I love men. so much. I also LOVE chivalry.

I want equality for everyone. EVERYONE. Regardless of your sex, race, religious belief or sexual orentation.


As a feminist I require to be treated with equality, respect, consideration and care by my suitor. That does not make me less of a feminist. I will, in return, treat my suitor with the same treatment. I want to live in a world where this isn't a rare ideal.

As a feminist, I strive to be one of the many who want to make this world a place where a woman (or anyone else that feels they can't) can walk down the street at any time of the day and be free from harm. To have the same opportunities to succeed. To have no limitations on what can be achieved.


After reading some of the comments. ugh. Thickheadedness is not discriminatory.

You CAN BE a feminist and be a stay at home mom.
You CAN BE a feminist and have 'old fashioned' values.
You CAN BE a feminist and BE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BE.

I love talking about this!

[MikeyWretch]

Im a feminist because I think Dudes are DUMB!!!!

My mom ruled and my dad bailed on 3 kids! Happens all the time! Ladies are strong and shit!

[Jacki O.]

Im a feminist because I think Dudes are DUMB!!!!

[marvelaugusts]

According to the feminist political theorist Susan Moller Okin, the challenge facing liberal thinkers is to incorporate fully issues of gender and the family into their thinking about justice. She insists that "We can have a liberalism that fully includes women only if we can devise a theoretical basis for public policies that, recognizing the family as a fundamental political institution, extends standards of justice to life within it" (Okin 1989, 53). Those who share Okin's belief that for liberal theory to move forward it must take the political nature of family relations seriously should return to Mary Wollstonecraft's work to find the beginnings of such a liberalism. Wollstonecraft not only depicts the family as a fundamentally political institution but also applies liberal notions of justice to it. It is argued here that she brings the values that liberals believe should govern the public realm to the private world of love, romance, and family life by promoting the ideal of marriage as friendship.

[Tender Lad]

Im a feminist because I think Dudes are DUMB!!!!

I think people are dumb. Shizzies excluded of course.

[Tony]

Im a feminist because I think Dudes are DUMB!!!!

I think people are dumb. Shizzies excluded of course.

so true. people are stupid, and it's gender neutral.

but it seems like men seem to always outstupid the ladies (see: hayworth, jd).

[Jacki O.]

According to the feminist political theorist Susan Moller Okin, the challenge facing liberal thinkers is to incorporate fully issues of gender and the family into their thinking about justice. She insists that "We can have a liberalism that fully includes women only if we can devise a theoretical basis for public policies that, recognizing the family as a fundamental political institution, extends standards of justice to life within it" (Okin 1989, 53). Those who share Okin's belief that for liberal theory to move forward it must take the political nature of family relations seriously should return to Mary Wollstonecraft's work to find the beginnings of such a liberalism. Wollstonecraft not only depicts the family as a fundamentally political institution but also applies liberal notions of justice to it. It is argued here that she brings the values that liberals believe should govern the public realm to the private world of love, romance, and family life by promoting the ideal of marriage as friendship.

very interesting. i definitely agree.
for instance women and men who have access to safe reproductive healthcare and sexual information, produce healthy offspring who in turn have access to the same.

Family is where we produce our members of society.

it's baffling that we let our media define our gender roles when they are so obviously harmful, outdated, and irrelevant to what is really occuring in our society.

case in point - an excellent essay by Aaron Trester from Salon.com on this new "retrosexual" label and what is exposing about men in America

[Melkor]

but it seems like men seem to always outstupid the ladies (see: hayworth, jd).

see Palin, Sarah and the women that love her. below is probably one that does

LETTER TO A YOUNG GIRL

My dear young friend:

I know that young girls like secrets, and I am going to share one with you. God has chosen your sex for you; He made you to be a girl. You know that girls today are often told by feminists that the Church is "sexist" and has "discriminated" against them from the very beginning. She is accused of having treated them as "inferior", less talented, less gifted, made to be man’s servants. She has denied them power in the Church, and prohibited them from receiving the highest honor, to be ordained to the priesthood and so on.

No doubt, you have heard this siren song, because the media are good when it comes to spreading this negative message. And this is why, to rebut these false claims, I would like to make you realize that women – far from being discriminated against – have been granted a unique place by God in the work of redemption. The beauty of their mission is already hinted at in the Old Testament, but it finds its fulfillment only in the New, that is in the sweet Mother of our Savior; in Mary, the gentle Maid of Nazareth who was chosen from all eternity to be the Mother of the Redeemer.

Let us take off our "secular" eyeglasses, and then we shall be able to see that women, far from being "discriminated" against, are in many ways privileged. And this is the "secret" I wish to share with you. The body of every little girl born into this world is mysteriously sealed by what is properly called the "veil of virginity". That is to say, a "secret" is entrusted to her body, and a secret is always "veiled". According to Christian teaching, this veil closes the entrance to a mysterious garden which belongs to God in a special way, and for this reason cannot be entered into except with His express permission, the permission that God grants spouses in the Sacrament of Matrimony. Any little girl aware of this "mystery" will feel that her body is to be modestly clothed, so that its secret will be hidden from lewd looks.

Little girls, of course, grow up. How beautiful when a bride can say to her husband on their wedding night, "I have kept this garden virginal for you, and now, with God’s permission I am giving you its key, knowing that you will enter into it with reverence".

http://www.priestsfo...brandletter.htm

[Jacki O.]

barf

cloaking degradation as "mystery" and "sacred"

[weener]

My vagina is not a garden.

[differently biotic]

barf 2nd

[Tender Lad]

but it seems like men seem to always outstupid the ladies (see: hayworth, jd).

Little girls, of course, grow up. How beautiful when a bride can say to her husband on their wedding night, "I have kept this garden virginal for you, and now, with God’s permission I am giving you its key, knowing that you will enter into it with reverence".

If getting the key to snatchtown is only good for married folk I'm goin' gay...

...gayer.

[Jacki O.]

my vagina is like a convenience store: clean, reliable and always closed on christmas

[donald]

my vagina is like a convenience store: clean, reliable and always closed on christmas

Doesn't serve to minors and can handle most rush hour traffic.



oh, and no shirt, no shoes, no service