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[glitterbot]

hello. does anyone out there know of a website that can help make sense of the 2008 Ballot Propositions for the general election? I want to get my early ballot filled out and sent (came today.) I am having trouble hacking through the rhetoric in the Ballot Proposition Publicity Booklet. I am reading all the arguments FOR and AGAINST and I still am having a hard time understanding what some of the propositions will actually DO. help??

[mig50]

[glitterbot]

eff you. i just realized i spelled that wrong. i am an idiot. i should not be allowed to vote.

[eraser]

I haven't done all the research on the propositions but I remember a friend mentioning that the Yes on Payday Loan Reform was actually the work of the payday loan lobbyists ... which makes things confusing.

[weener]

Has anyone seen those billboards with the splashy text that says "Yes! to marriage! Vote yes on 102!"

They are trying so hard to be positive to get people to vote for an amendment that says NO to marriage for a large segment of society...




Anyway, 4 years ago it was my first time voting and I got this awesome little packet that explained each proposition in plain english and listed the sorts of people who might be for and against it and why. I got it at the Paper Heart and I have no clue who made it, but I wish I could find one again.

[glitterbot]

http://www.azgp.org/

matt directed me here. there is some good info on most of the props here. and yes, the so-called payday loan "reform" is sponsored by the PayDay loan corps.

[weener]

Woohoo!

I found out what that nice booklet with the plain-language explanations of each proposition was! It's from the Arizona Advocacy Network Foundation.

Here it is!

Warning: link is a PDF.

[fatguyaz]

Has anyone seen those billboards with the splashy text that says "Yes! to marriage! Vote yes on 102!"

They are trying so hard to be positive to get people to vote for an amendment that says NO to marriage for a large segment of society...




Anyway, 4 years ago it was my first time voting and I got this awesome little packet that explained each proposition in plain english and listed the sorts of people who might be for and against it and why. I got it at the Paper Heart and I have no clue who made it, but I wish I could find one again.

Have you guys heard the radio spots for this? It's all romantic sounding...a woman telling the listeners about how her husband proposed to her. Oh my heart... then they say: "Marriage...it's a man, a woman, a family. Not for dumb fags"

Ok, i made that last line up, but they may as well have. Lame

[weener]

I've heard there is a TV commercial that says, "If Prop 102 isn't passed, little girls won't bake cookies with their moms anymore...dads won't take their sons fishing...blah blah blah...because gays are too busy having anal sex to do fun things with their kids. And if they are allowed to marry they will anally rape straight couples so they won't care for their kids either."

OK, so I made that last part up, but that's the gist of it.

[Tony]

Has anyone seen those billboards with the splashy text that says "Yes! to marriage! Vote yes on 102!"

They are trying so hard to be positive to get people to vote for an amendment that says NO to marriage for a large segment of society...




Anyway, 4 years ago it was my first time voting and I got this awesome little packet that explained each proposition in plain english and listed the sorts of people who might be for and against it and why. I got it at the Paper Heart and I have no clue who made it, but I wish I could find one again.

Have you guys heard the radio spots for this? It's all romantic sounding...a woman telling the listeners about how her husband proposed to her. Oh my heart... then they say: "Marriage...it's a man, a woman, a family. Not for dumb fags"

Ok, i made that last line up, but they may as well have. Lame

the signs for that prop read "Say YES! to Marriage."
anyway, some "vandals" turned the exclamation point into a T and added some other lettering so now they read "Say YES TO HATE!" much more accurate if you ask me.

there's one like a block from our house. i saw on the news that they hit a bunch of them in the valley the exact same way, and it's going to cost the pro 102 groups several thousand dollars to fix them. and you know what? i don't even feel a little bit sorry for them.

[John MFer]

I'm having a tough time envisioning how that would look. You got a cameraphone, Tony? Can you post a pic or do you know of one? My neighbors have one of these signs in their yard and I would love to fix it for them.

[Jacki O.]

So do some of my neighbors.

I used to change those "Support Our Troops" yard signs to "Support Our oops" signs when the Iraq war started. I am guessing these are more labor intensive changes than just adding a piece of tape over a letter.

Clever re-imaging is fun tho.

[Hooray For Everything]

I have an idea, let's start our own country with just one party, and no more freedom of expression.

I agree with you guys, people who share different values than us shouldn't even be able to put signs on their property expressing those different values.

They should expect people to come onto their property & vandalize those signs...

What do they think this is, America?

I, myself, don't think think love should be legislated at all. No legal Gay marriage, no legal straight marriage, no tax breaks, period. tax breaks for 'kids in the home', regardless of the sex of the partners.

End of story.

[Mary]

HFE, yer gettin' soft.

[Hooray For Everything]

Talking about marriage always makes me soft.