Jacki maybe in the future can there be like a "ooops i walked in on a dude in the shower at a trucker stop" sword fight layout in pool boy?
hmmm i'm liking this idea. especially the truck stop part.
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Started by MikeyWretch, Jun 08 2009 12:54 PM
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 10:17 AM
hmmm i'm liking this idea. especially the truck stop part.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 10:18 AM
LIGERBEAT!!!!
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 10:26 AM
LIGERBEAT!!!!
i got their first issue. it's ok. there's only like 1 hot naked dude in it. the articles are funny though. poolboy is going to be way better.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 10:27 AM
DIY is always better
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:17 PM
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:19 PM
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what!?!? Really!?!
fucking A that is so lame.
today is a bad day.
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH PEOPLE IN ARIZONA?
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what!?!? Really!?!
fucking A that is so lame.
today is a bad day.
WHAT GOING ON WITH PEOPLE IN ARIZONA?
Tribes lose.
Actually it happened Monday.
This might not the be the forum for it but it sucks to me personally. It sets a precedent regarding the legitimacy of Native American religions and the places they (we) hold sacred.
A lot of Navajo/Hopi money gets pumped into the Flagstaff (bordertown) economy not to mention the number of Native American students that attend NAU (tuition $$$) that it's hard (for me) to stomach the insensitivity the actual town, not to mention the US Supreme court, has towards our beliefs.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:33 PM
what!?!? Really!?!
fucking A that is so lame.
today is a bad day.
WHAT GOING ON WITH PEOPLE IN ARIZONA?
Tribes lose.
Actually it happened Monday.
This might not the be the forum for it but it sucks to me personally. It sets a precedent regarding the legitimacy of Native American religions and the places they (we) hold sacred.
A lot of Navajo/Hopi money gets pumped into the Flagstaff (bordertown) economy not to mention the number of Native American students that attend NAU (tuition $$$) that it's hard (for me) to stomach the insensitivity the actual town, not to mention the US Supreme court, has towards our beliefs.
i think you should start a thread about this. i think it's horrible. It treads on people's rights, it destroys a designated wilderness preserve and it uses reclaimed wastewater which is gross.
just so people can ski? fuck that shit.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:01 PM
what!?!? Really!?!
fucking A that is so lame.
today is a bad day.
WHAT GOING ON WITH PEOPLE IN ARIZONA?
Tribes lose.
Actually it happened Monday.
This might not the be the forum for it but it sucks to me personally. It sets a precedent regarding the legitimacy of Native American religions and the places they (we) hold sacred.
A lot of Navajo/Hopi money gets pumped into the Flagstaff (bordertown) economy not to mention the number of Native American students that attend NAU (tuition $$$) that it's hard (for me) to stomach the insensitivity the actual town, not to mention the US Supreme court, has towards our beliefs.
i think you should start a thread about this. i think it's horrible. It treads on people's rights, it destroys a designated wilderness preserve and it uses reclaimed wastewater which is gross.
just so people can ski? fuck that shit.
well, i agree with your point about the wastewater being gross, and fucking up a wildlife preserve isn't cool. but "(G)iving one religious sect a veto over the use of public park land would deprive others of the right to use what is, by definition, land that belongs to everyone," Judge Carlos Bea wrote in the majority ruling.
i gotta say, i agree with that statement. i'd be up in arms if the catholic church said "no, you can't build that here because we believe jesus has lives in the mountain". ironically, if catholics said that, they'd probably get whatever they want, but that's a whole other topic. but making a religious claim to public land? native american or otherwise, i'm not for it.
i don't necessarily agree that they should have snowmaking up there - especially with the wastewater, etc., but i think the religious argument is irrelevant.
Andy Bessler of the Sierra Club said, "We think there are other legal options."
um, i'm pretty sure there aren't. it was the US Supreme Court. i thought that's where it ended.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:08 PM
what!?!? Really!?!
fucking A that is so lame.
today is a bad day.
WHAT GOING ON WITH PEOPLE IN ARIZONA?
Tribes lose.
Actually it happened Monday.
This might not the be the forum for it but it sucks to me personally. It sets a precedent regarding the legitimacy of Native American religions and the places they (we) hold sacred.
A lot of Navajo/Hopi money gets pumped into the Flagstaff (bordertown) economy not to mention the number of Native American students that attend NAU (tuition $$$) that it's hard (for me) to stomach the insensitivity the actual town, not to mention the US Supreme court, has towards our beliefs.
i think you should start a thread about this. i think it's horrible. It treads on people's rights, it destroys a designated wilderness preserve and it uses reclaimed wastewater which is gross.
just so people can ski? fuck that shit.
well, i agree with your point about the wastewater being gross, and fucking up a wildlife preserve isn't cool. but "(G)iving one religious sect a veto over the use of public park land would deprive others of the right to use what is, by definition, land that belongs to everyone," Judge Carlos Bea wrote in the majority ruling.
i gotta say, i agree with that statement. i'd be up in arms if the catholic church said "no, you can't build that here because we believe jesus has lives in the mountain". ironically, if catholics said that, they'd probably get whatever they want, but that's a whole other topic. but making a religious claim to public land? native american or otherwise, i'm not for it.
i don't necessarily agree that they should have snowmaking up there - especially with the wastewater, etc., but i think the religious argument is irrelevant.Andy Bessler of the Sierra Club said, "We think there are other legal options."
um, i'm pretty sure there aren't. it was the US Supreme Court. i thought that's where it ended.
yeah but they can go another legal route other than one based on religious grounds. And like you said, don't for a minute think that another, more western, monotheist religion wouldn't have gotten the chance to argue this case before the supreme court. They get to all the time with stupid anti-choice shit.
The site was designated a wilderness reserve in the 70s, this guy who owns the snowbowl found a loophole so that he could cut down more acres of wilderness and destroy wildlife habitats and build a $12million pipelines to pump poopwater onto the mountain so he can make more money off of $200 ski lift passes.
again.
fuck that shit.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:10 PM
I say if you need snow that bad move the fuck to the midwest!
They have more than they want!
They have more than they want!
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:12 PM
yeah, and even though they've had record snowfall these last few years, he still needs to build this poopline?
skiing on fake snow sucks anyways.
skiing on fake snow sucks anyways.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:16 PM
Informa! skabaititiliddydoopooPOW Ill lick your boom boom down!
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:25 PM
im totally sorry.
i am not in the mood to discuss seriousness today!
poopwater for everyone!!!
tonight:
1) go home - drink, smoke, swim in my pool and then play l4d
2) go see a movie
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i am not in the mood to discuss seriousness today!
poopwater for everyone!!!
tonight:
1) go home - drink, smoke, swim in my pool and then play l4d
2) go see a movie
3) cry
4) rub one out
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well, i agree with your point about the wastewater being gross, and fucking up a wildlife preserve isn't cool. but "(G)iving one religious sect a veto over the use of public park land would deprive others of the right to use what is, by definition, land that belongs to everyone," Judge Carlos Bea wrote in the majority ruling.
i gotta say, i agree with that statement. i'd be up in arms if the catholic church said "no, you can't build that here because we believe jesus has lives in the mountain". ironically, if catholics said that, they'd probably get whatever they want, but that's a whole other topic. but making a religious claim to public land? native american or otherwise, i'm not for it.
i don't necessarily agree that they should have snowmaking up there - especially with the wastewater, etc., but i think the religious argument is irrelevant.
I think it's safe to say that a majority of people, AZ residents or otherwise, would agree with this. Seems logical and rational. I mean we're supposed to separate church and state right. One should not dictate another.
However, I believe the way Native Americans practice their religion is most likely viewed as unorthodox by the majority of people as well. It's like folklore and shit. Many Native religions are passed down orally (not that way) and not written. How legitimate can their (our) religions be? I know you're not necessarily questioning the legitimacy of Native religion (maybe you are, I dunno) but....
The San Francisco Peaks are held sacred by the Navajo tribe, among many other tribes, and Navajo medicine men gather ceremonial herbs and medicines from that mountain. Navajos are also very superstitious (particularly about the dead). Just the idea that wastewater is going to be used on that mountain and how it affects the ecosystem calls into question the purity of the herbs and medicine that are gathered up there. What if the water from a morgue or used in an autopsy is reclaimed and sprayed on the mountain? It taints the purity of ecosystem in Navajo eyes.
"Well scientists say that the water is just as pure as the water you drink....etc."
Well, these scientists don't practice our religion. It's almost impossible for them (and maybe you) to conceive any problem with this. But for a Navajo, there are many problems associated with using wastewater on a 'supposed' sacred mountain.
I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with me. Your views are just as legitimate as mine (just maybe not to the US Supreme Court).
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