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[skeksis]

Have a myspace request to play a show put together by this "company"... which seems to be a nationally organized promoter aimed toward milking local musicians. Wondering if any else of you have heard from them, heard of them, or if you've played on one of their shows. Seems an odd business model (yet not unfamiliar in some circles).

Note that I'm an amateur alt-country type singer/songwriter being recruited for a show at Big Fish... seems unlikely to me. Not that I wouldn't try it if it were legit :-) ANYWAY, just curious what y'all know.

[jeremx]

nemesis entertainment? the name indicates it could be bad for you. of course my company's name is enemy enterprises and i'm a sweetheart so who knows.

[unluckycharm]

Ha,

I got a similar email skeksis. I can't tell if they are a scam or what, but I am leery. It looks like they are putting together some show with like 15 bands at rhythm room this month.

If they mention you paying money to them for any reason or selling X amount of tickets, I would stay far away.

[illya]

Ha,

I got a similar email skeksis. I can't tell if they are a scam or what, but I am leery. It looks like they are putting together some show with like 15 bands at rhythm room this month.

If they mention you paying money to them for any reason or selling X amount of tickets, I would stay far away.

seconded. i got the same email from them this month too, same deal, sell 40 tix and start at 5:30 on thursday... fuck that noise

[skeksis]

fuck that noise

no, I don't think I'll be following up on this one. scam or not, my spidey sense is tingling. thanks for sharing.

[raubhimself]

I have heard a bunch of stories about promoters like this. Even if they aren't scams, they are shady as hell and you end up doing a lot of work for their gain.

[jeremx]

sell 40 tix and start at 5:30 on thursday...

sounds like a great opportunity! ha ha

[illya]

sell 40 tix and start at 5:30 on thursday...

sounds like a great opportunity! ha ha

i can't BELIEVE we passed on that!

[jeremx]

bands are just lazy and don't want it bad enough these days.

[eraser]

LOL

Dangerville just got contacted by someone from Nemesis.

It seemed pretty innocuous, but I was pretty leery of the pay-for-play thing.

I found their website and saw that they were putting together those showcases at Rhythm Room.

I Googled them and lo and behold, here I am at The Shizz!

I'm considering writing back and letting him know what Dangerville's rider consists of and the varying pay scales that our contract demands.

[jeremx]

I'm considering writing back and letting him know what Dangerville's rider consists of and the varying pay scales that our contract demands.

naked pictures of bea arthur and a football helmet full of cottage cheese?

[HNIC]

bands are just lazy and don't want it bad enough these days.

I know this is gonna piss people off but that sorta true. I mean honestly if you cant draw more than 5 people you are costing a venue money, and thats usually do to the fact you are playing 4 shows a week and not promoting any of them.

[thebiggameover]

what ever happend to franko?

[skeksis]

honestly if you cant draw more than 5 people you are costing a venue money, and thats usually do to the fact....

honestly, I'd love to hear the economic reasoning behind that statement. 5 people is still more than the zero that would be there without this hypothetical band. IF this band has $200 guarantee or something, then yeah you're losing $. A lot of places around here don't offer any guarantee plus the band pays the soundguy (out of door proceeds)... So it costs the venue almost nothing to have a band perform... A few pennies for electricity, maybe a handful of drink tokens. Easily offset by the 5 folks who turned out.

Sure a rational venue would prefer 50 over 5; but 5 > 0.

[joe.distort]

meaning you are losing money compared to a band that would draw people for door + bar. of course you arent "losing" money, but you are missing out.

its like this: i know bands that dont promote, dont draw, and all bail out after they are done playing. compared to a band that actually does those things, you would be losing money. then these same kids wonder why no one books them...