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[chalupacabra]

and I just love sawyer and juliet together. sigh.

right?! Who cried?! I know i didn't cuz i'm a fuckin tough guy, but my wife and friend were ballin...

Dude, Vincent laying down next to Jack? Fuck.....

[differently biotic]

yeah that was totally wrenched my heart strings.

I am a sap.

[capharnaum]

This show sounds like a pain in the ass to follow.

couldn't agree more, definitely
doesn't give me any desire to watch
a single episode

[unluckycharm]

Richard Roeper's view
"In the end, a man named Christian Shephard gathered a flock (including his prodigal son) in a place of worship, where they joyfully accepted their fate and moved on to the next phase of the afterlife, indicated by a bright and glorious light.

As always, “Lost” was about redemption and forgiveness, faith and hope, trying to be the best person you can be — and letting go when your time is up.

Is Christian the father, Jack the son and Desmond the Holy Ghost? Were Jacob and his nemesis Cain and Abel? Was the island the Garden of Eden?

It’s probably not that simple; nothing with “Lost” was ever easy. But the Biblical imagery and references have been there from the start, so we shouldn’t have been surprised that the finale was so steeped in religious themes.

In the final episode, we learned the “Sideways” world was more like a purgatory, where each of the characters believed he or she was operating in a real-life setting, when in fact they were all gone. (At least, that’s what I think was happening. I could be wrong. You’ll let me know.)

How could it be that Jack, who died on the island, was existing in this world that included Kate and Sawyer and others who had managed to escape? Because time doesn’t work in the same way in the afterlife as it does on Earth. (“There is no ‘now’ here,” Christian Shephard tells his son. And, by the way, did you notice the menorah and the Buddha statue in that room in the church?)

“You can let go now,” Rose told Jack when Oceanic 815 didn’t crash in that alternate world. In the post-mortem show, Jimmy Kimmel posited to Matthew Fox that when Rose said those words, Jack was dying on the island, and everything we saw after that in Los Angeles was part of Jack’s purgatory.

Sounds right to me.

Let’s say Jack spent 40 years in that alternate world as a surgeon with an ex-wife, a young son — nobody really aging, Jack not aware that time wasn’t really moving. In the real world, the other characters live their lives, some dying of old age. Eventually, they’re all in that same Los Angeles-looking afterlife, continuing to grow spiritually until they were ready to move on.

Except for those who weren’t ready, e.g., Benjamin Linus, who remained outside the place of worship and said he still had some things to take care of.

Take this cup and drink from it."

[fatguyaz]

good points. I like that view.

[aaronburke]

i still don't like the alternate reality and view it more as a
cop-out than anything else. to me, it's very much like the most
hated lost episode of all time - the jin/sun one where jin is rushing
around trying to find a teddy bear that the viewer assumes is for sun
the whole time and then we see that the ep has been 'playing' us for
alternate timelines the whole time. this whole season was like that
to me. so, you're telling me that the alternate reality was a purgatory
of sorts? that, i can believe. but you only start showing it to us
after the nuclear bomb goes off? now that is total and utter bullshit.
just trying to manipulate the viewer in an unfair way, exactly like
the aforementioned universally hated episode.

[fatguyaz]

but, isn't that what making a good show is all about: Manipulating the viewer into thinking one thing, then having it turn out another way?

I think it's quite pleasing. I find music to be the same way, the song starts out with something that would lead you to believe it's going to go one way and it goes another... I guess you have to at least enjoy the direction it goes in, as much as the direction you THOUGHT it was going.

Who wants to watch a show that just goes the way you want it to go?

[aaronburke]

that's really not the kind of manipulation i was writing about

[Rocquero]

the most hated lost episode of all time - the jin/sun one where jin is rushing
around trying to find a teddy bear that the viewer assumes is for sun
the whole time and then we see that the ep has been 'playing' us for
alternate timelines the whole time.

#1 i have never heard of this being a hated episode.
#2 there is no way it is more universally-hated than the lame-ass nikki/paulo episode.

edit: RAZZLE DAZZLE!

[DoctorShumway]

#2 there is no way it is more universally-hated than the lame-ass nikki/paulo episode.

edit: RAZZLE DAZZLE!

Hahaha holy shit I forgot about that episode. Totally awful.

[jhealy]

i loved seeing the idea that you created this life. you made your destiny.

[jeremx]

http://www.collegehu...m/video:1936291

[The Other 49]

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291

Brilliant.

[fatguyaz]

that's really not the kind of manipulation i was writing about

Well, fuck you, then!!

Lets fight!!!!

[aaronburke]

let's do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!