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#16 Jacki O.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:31 PM

As far as regular Super Bowl commercials being sexist, they are. As far as the networks ignoring half their fanbase or reducing them to nags, they do. However, a lot of female football fans find these humorous as well. If it alienated half of their viewers their numbers would decline, not increase as they do every year. People like it.


it's always a double standard with women. If the number of women sports fans declines (which please show me some facts that they are increasing) then people would say "see women don't like sports, so who cares if we sell ad time to companies that objectify and stereotype them, they're not watching!"

if the number of female fans increases then people say "See women like these ads because our female fan numbers are increasing!"

it doesnt matter who likes them. it matters because the media is a powerful tool. and it's not just smart people who know the female experience is made up of more than hot women in lingerie selling beer or the naggy girlfriend that men have to run away from, who are watching these commercials. It's young people, women and men. and we're pretty much saying it's OK to say that we are a culture that degrades it's women/relationships/gender roles, that it's ok to promote alcohol abuse over healthy partnerships between people, over communication. Not surprisingly, alcohol is involved in a high number of domestic violence cases.

All that shit represents our culture to our young people.

I'm not saying our media can't explore gender humor or stereotypes. But let's do it in a smart way.

And as female fan who has written the NFL and college organizations multiple times about the kinds of commercials they choose to air during their games - i have never received a response back. Not once.

So now you have these commercials that say to women "Look you have to be super hot(and white) and not talk if you want to be valued in our society, but dont pregnant, because if you do and you decide to have an abortion, the NFL is going to lose out on a great quarterback"

fuck playing devil's advocate on a bullshit topic.

in the words of john lennon:
Woman is the Ni**er of the World

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And it's bullshit that as a human being that has participated in sports almost all her life, whether that be through being a fan or through actively playing sports, my gender's interest and involvement in sports is questioned every time we have a problem with being misrepresented or underrepresented.

The history of women in sports in America is so immense and impressive yet constantly being swept under the rug it's ridiculous. And all because advertisers and companies want to sell an uber-date-rape-masculine ideal to men and women. Many of whom buy into it!
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:48 PM

Perhaps the focus is NOT on the minority of viewers (women, in this case... it is the super bowl)... but more focused on the putting thoughts in the minds of the majority... the ones who did the impregnating. Hmmm... perhaps they don't think they can influence the women... but maybe they can influence their significant others (or soon to be baby's daddy) to do the convincing for them. Maybe it's worse that they're putting these thoughts into the male viewers head to sway their opinion.

"Honey... you can't abort the baby... you don't know how you really feel. You're prego and full of hormones and nonsensical emotions... I saw a very informative commercial on this... those doctors are always wrong. I know what I'm talking about".

See where this is goin???
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 05:43 PM


As far as regular Super Bowl commercials being sexist, they are. As far as the networks ignoring half their fanbase or reducing them to nags, they do. However, a lot of female football fans find these humorous as well. If it alienated half of their viewers their numbers would decline, not increase as they do every year. People like it.


it's always a double standard with women. If the number of women sports fans declines (which please show me some facts that they are increasing) then people would say "see women don't like sports, so who cares if we sell ad time to companies that objectify and stereotype them, they're not watching!"

if the number of female fans increases then people say "See women like these ads because our female fan numbers are increasing!"

it doesnt matter who likes them. it matters because the media is a powerful tool. and it's not just smart people who know the female experience is made up of more than hot women in lingerie selling beer or the naggy girlfriend that men have to run away from, who are watching these commercials. It's young people, women and men. and we're pretty much saying it's OK to say that we are a culture that degrades it's women/relationships/gender roles, that it's ok to promote alcohol abuse over healthy partnerships between people, over communication. Not surprisingly, alcohol is involved in a high number of domestic violence cases.

All that shit represents our culture to our young people.

I'm not saying our media can't explore gender humor or stereotypes. But let's do it in a smart way.

And as female fan who has written the NFL and college organizations multiple times about the kinds of commercials they choose to air during their games - i have never received a response back. Not once.

So now you have these commercials that say to women "Look you have to be super hot(and white) and not talk if you want to be valued in our society, but dont pregnant, because if you do and you decide to have an abortion, the NFL is going to lose out on a great quarterback"

fuck playing devil's advocate on a bullshit topic.

in the words of john lennon:
Woman is the Ni**er of the World

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And it's bullshit that as a human being that has participated in sports almost all her life, whether that be through being a fan or through actively playing sports, my gender's interest and involvement in sports is questioned every time we have a problem with being misrepresented or underrepresented.

The history of women in sports in America is so immense and impressive yet constantly being swept under the rug it's ridiculous. And all because advertisers and companies want to sell an uber-date-rape-masculine ideal to men and women. Many of whom buy into it!

For what it's worth, I completely agree with all of this. I just meant to say a lot of people, male and female, find it funny, etc. I don't really personally. I think it's cliche at best and dangerous at worst. I just happen to know a lot of women who think commercials with these typical gender roles are funny too.

Yes, I agree, do it in a smart way. For me, Dave Chappelle used stereotypes in his show and it was brilliant. Carlos Mencia did the same, and it was garbage. However, I can't say someone liking Mencia's version is bullshit just because I think it's stupid.

And I don't mean to question women's interest or involvement in sports. Some of the best fans I know are women. (sounds terribly like the whole some of my best friends are gay, black, etc. comment) I just wanted to point out that I think this broad, cliche humor is actually liked and appreciated by most. Not me. But I think the majority. Networks are 100% about money. Just like every form of media out there. The bottom line is moving greenbacks like every other business in the world. My personal goal would be to try and figure out how to educate society better in terms of what they support and what it means. If we convince everyone to raise their standard, networks, film companies, Walmart, etc, they all follow suit. A great example of this is how Walmart jumped on the natural end organic market when they realized they could turn a profit there too. That's all they really care about. What I am trying to say in the end is that equal, if not more, blame needs to fall upon the consumer and society than just the networks.

Sorry if this makes no sense.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:35 PM

Jacki, I logged on and signed both of the petitions urging CBS not to let this crap be shown. I'm glad you keep posting these tidbits. The bulk of my coworkers are conservative as shit, so the only political sentiment I hear on a daily basis is how Glenn Beck says Obama's turning our country all commie and shit. It gets a little overwhelming and depressing to hear so many smart people talking about such emotionally-charged pseudo propagandist drivel. So, it's good to know people are still keeping an eye out for our dwindling rights and an eye on those who see fit to curtail those rights....

I think it's pretty icky that there was so much shit going around a few years ago about Janet Jackson's nip slip, but if you hang the word "family" on a hate group and run their propaganda, that makes the same program more wholesome. I never get the mentality of the people who support these organizations; "well our mis-construed idea of god says all babies need to get born, regardless of circumstances, but as soon as they're born, don't ask us to take care of their poor-asses, cuz we don't believe in hand-outs. We can just treat them like animals and kill them by electrocution or lethal injection once the rest of the system has failed them." (that's not a real quote, just my impersonation of one of these fucks!)

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:59 PM

already received a delivery failure notice for an email (but also thank you emails too)


got three "thank you" emails back. nothing saying undeliverable. at least not yet.
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 12:13 AM

i was under the impression that this add was in fact NOT running during the super bowl, and cbs already said they dont run thoes kind of adds during major sporting events. at least i thought thats what i herd....


edit: nevermind http://www.huffingto...h_b_442856.html


sucks i cant watch this now. was gonna be a good super bowl too....
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 02:46 PM

sorry for sounding like an A-hole in this thread. i was getting sick and in a bad mood.

for an update on this:

CBS got tons of hate mail about this and then said they would possibly run an opposing viewpoint ad, but have done nothing else about it. Oh and they have rejected a gay dating site ad.

Focus on the Family is saying the ad is about how Tim Tebow's mother was advised to get an abortion while pregnant with him after she fell ill and chose not to, the add doesn't say that she was in the Philipines at the time and abortion is/was illegal there so there was no way she could have had a safe legal abortion even if she chose to.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:20 PM

sorry for sounding like an A-hole in this thread. i was getting sick and in a bad mood.

for an update on this:

CBS got tons of hate mail about this and then said they would possibly run an opposing viewpoint ad, but have done nothing else about it. Oh and they have rejected a gay dating site ad.

Focus on the Family is saying the ad is about how Tim Tebow's mother was advised to get an abortion while pregnant with him after she fell ill and chose not to, the add doesn't say that she was in the Philipines at the time and abortion is/was illegal there so there was no way she could have had a safe legal abortion even if she chose to.

misconstrue the truth to get the right answers

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No worries. I don't think I was getting my point across like I wanted to either. Either way, this is bullshit is correct. Especially after the rejection of the gay dating site ad.

In the end, it's all about the brand the network and the NFL want to create. My best advice to anyone is don't watch. Male, female, or otherwise, you have to show them what you believe and hope anyone else who dislikes it does the same. Then they will listen. Hopefully. ;)
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 11:41 AM

from Women's Media Center:

Today is our day of action targeting the NFL and pressuring them to step in and demand that CBS pull the anti-choice ad sponsored by Focus on the Family. Please take two minutes today to help us flood their phone lines -- and share these actions with your friends online.

You can:

1.Call the NFL. Ask them to pressure CBS to drop the ad. They have been able to influence the advertising decisions of the network in the past and now is the time that they speak up and ask CBS to scrap the ad. Here's a script, and NFL numbers are listed below. Call the commissioner and your favorite team!

"Hello, I am calling to express my disappointment with the NFL's silence on CBS decision to air an anti-choice ad from Focus on the Family despite previously rejecting advocacy ads from other organizations. This ad from a divisive and intolerant organization is bad for women and bad for the image of the Super Bowl. I am calling to ask the NFL to make the right call and tell CBS to pull the ad."

2.Sign a petition. We are delivering your signatures to CBS executives this week - the more the better. We have several petitions on NotUnderTheBus.com from coalition partners and other organizations who are working to stop this ad, make sure to sign as many as you can: http://bit.ly/7Zs8jq.

3.Get out the tweet: CBS made the wrong call on anti-choice #superbowl ad; call the NFL today to ask for a replay: http://bit.ly/6b5PNI #underthebus

4.RSVP on Facebook. Share the event on Facebook: http://bit.ly/9nObyQ


Most of all - do something! The last thing we need is CBS, the NFL, or their advertisers telling us when and how to have a family.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 01:54 PM

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 02:59 PM

PHOENIX -- Picketers showed up outside the CBS 5 News building Friday morning to protest an anti-abortion commercial scheduled to air during Sunday's Super Bowl.

Members of the Sun City West chapter of the National Organization for Women carried signs riling against CBS and advocating abortion rights.

The controversial ad, which is paid for by conservative group Focus on the Family, features college football star Tim Tebow. In the ad, he says he is happy his mother ignored her doctor's advice to have an abortion.

Nevertheless, protesters said the abortion debate should be off-limits during Super Bowl ads.

"(Abortion is) a very one-sided thing," said protester Jacklin Lindfors. "It's one thing to advertise soap flakes; it's another thing to advertise a belief -- and this is a belief."

CBS 5 General Manager Ed Munson spoke to the protesters.

"First and foremost, we absolutely defend the right of the National Organization for Women to picket here and protest," he said. "The First Amendment is very important to our television station and to our company … We believe in a vigorous, vigorous debate of all issues … (and) this is part of the debate."

Munson also extended an invitation to NOW to buy local airtime for a commercial expressing the organization's point of view.
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:04 AM

a little respect

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:08 PM

fuck yeah that's awesome

too bad it's not running during the super bowl.

boo to CBS for shores.

trying to be positive 2 good things emerged out of this for me:

1) seeing that CBS is a douchey network, and knowing that i have to try to not financially support them (or some of their advertisers)
2) knowing that that hate group Focus on the Family wasted $3 million dollars of their money on a 30second ad
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:44 AM

so this ad wasn't nearly as offensive as i thought.

i was under the impression that it was going to specifically talk about her at risk pregnancy and how she had to keep it, but it was just the two of them talking and then fade to "focus on the family" on screen. i still don't like the message, but it was about 100 times less inflammatory than i was expecting.

and i'd be even more comfortable if they had allowed the gay rights ad to air.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:55 AM

so this ad wasn't nearly as offensive as i thought.

i was under the impression that it was going to specifically talk about her at risk pregnancy and how she had to keep it, but it was just the two of them talking and then fade to "focus on the family" on screen. i still don't like the message, but it was about 100 times less inflammatory than i was expecting.

and i'd be even more comfortable if they had allowed the gay rights ad to air.


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