by the way, if you want to call me a stupid dumb bitch asshole, go right ahead. if your mentality dictates that the word 'seem' in that statement is a technicality or a get out of jail free card that means i didn't REALLY call anyone a name, then that's your deal. that's your opinion and that's fine. my point was that it seemed like rather than making a valid point for an arguement, people resort to name calling and 'shut up' and stuff like that. i believe i also said that i don't know if anyone here is a jerk or not, prove me right or wrong. the response i got was... 'so if i say you "seem" like a stupid dumb bitch douchebag asshole, then im not REALLY calling you that'. what would YOU think?
as for what you are 'doing' making you seem like elitist assholes, what do you even mean? what i meant was that you seem to take opinions that differ from your own and calling them lame because they don't jive with your own. the elitist part comes from the seeming distaste some people here seem to have for people they don't know. ( i saw it mentioned by a couple people that whoever it was that started this thread was 'anonymous'. i take that to mean they don't know this person). i would like to think a community like i thought this one was supposed to be like would be more open to new people who want to put their 2cents in on a subject instead of right off the bat calling them 'a stupid dumb bitch douchebag asshole'. if you mean something else by what you are 'doing', then it's mixed signals.
do i think rock is on life support? at this point, so much stuff is derivative. people like what they're gonna like. it's not in the sales, it's not in stuff like that. when you have songs by modest mouse and the buzzcocks in car commercials, i'd say the impact rock is having today is less than before. look at the 'revival' bands (and i refuse to mention the strokes due to overkill). that is what people like right now as far as
'rock'. remember when you listened to stuff that disgusted your parents? now the parents sing along. it's not really rock as a genre that is dying, it's what rock has stood for. there are still good bands and (hopefully) always will be, but the MO behind it ... totally different.
but that's only if you go by a stupid dumb bitch douchebag asshole.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 06:58 PM
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 06:59 PM
ok ok , so do you believe rock is in fact on life support?
Actually, it was rock is dead. Kaput as the social harbinger it once was. Now just nice noise but culturally static.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:07 PM
jesus christ, do you even realize why
raub made that post? don't make me
spell it out.
everyone i know is willing to argue
strongly for what they believe in,
no matter if it's with a close friend
or a new person.
summary of this thread, and tell me
if this is wrong -
hands dude came on voicing opinion.
several people try to get him to DEFINE what he means.
hands dude unable to do so.
several people voice counter opinions and even NAME bands that counter said opinion.
hands dude gets flip when told that someone (me) disagrees with his opinion but he's entitled to it.
i tell him to shut up. if that makes me elitist, then again that's your opinion. i'm no elitist.
hands continues to try to insult people to make point.
did i miss anything or was anything
wrong? if so let me know. you can
pm me if you don't want to continue
this on the msg board.
most of the people on this board are
doing their parts, however small or big,
to make sure rock doesn't die. negative
posts from mr hands dude don't do anyone
any good.
raub made that post? don't make me
spell it out.
everyone i know is willing to argue
strongly for what they believe in,
no matter if it's with a close friend
or a new person.
summary of this thread, and tell me
if this is wrong -
hands dude came on voicing opinion.
several people try to get him to DEFINE what he means.
hands dude unable to do so.
several people voice counter opinions and even NAME bands that counter said opinion.
hands dude gets flip when told that someone (me) disagrees with his opinion but he's entitled to it.
i tell him to shut up. if that makes me elitist, then again that's your opinion. i'm no elitist.
hands continues to try to insult people to make point.
did i miss anything or was anything
wrong? if so let me know. you can
pm me if you don't want to continue
this on the msg board.
most of the people on this board are
doing their parts, however small or big,
to make sure rock doesn't die. negative
posts from mr hands dude don't do anyone
any good.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:32 PM
I just got all upset because i got called an ameoba and a sheep because of a band i like. but this thread went from "rock is dead" to "the shizz is full of elitist, and dont know how to argue". dumb.
I AM NOT A SHEEP! I'M RUBBER AND YOUR GLUE! BOUNCE OF ME AND STICK ON YOU!
I LOVE THE STROKES!!
I AM NOT A SHEEP! I'M RUBBER AND YOUR GLUE! BOUNCE OF ME AND STICK ON YOU!
I LOVE THE STROKES!!
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:36 PM
it would be really cool, and when i say cool i don't mean "seem" cool i mean fucking amazing cool, if i caught my parents singing lyrics to the code 13 song,
and i'd give it another 5-10 years (depending on how clued in the "kids" are) before we hear a lighning bolt song on a mcdonalds commercial and or car commercial.
and by that time don't ya think a "rock band" may have evolved from where we are today?
maybe think about your knowledge of contemporary "rock", just because you don't know about or are not informed of current rock outfits that happen be "rock" and popular on the underground level right now dosen't mean they don't exist. bam now who seems to be the elitist
ME ME ME WHO WANTS TRIDENT I DO DO (did you think i was calling you an elitist be honest.)
and i'd give it another 5-10 years (depending on how clued in the "kids" are) before we hear a lighning bolt song on a mcdonalds commercial and or car commercial.
and by that time don't ya think a "rock band" may have evolved from where we are today?
maybe think about your knowledge of contemporary "rock", just because you don't know about or are not informed of current rock outfits that happen be "rock" and popular on the underground level right now dosen't mean they don't exist. bam now who seems to be the elitist
ME ME ME WHO WANTS TRIDENT I DO DO (did you think i was calling you an elitist be honest.)
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:41 PM
If counter opinions consist of listing your fave little bands than so it is. Or being told I just need to hear the right obscure band. It doesnt exactly answer my statement of rock no longer being the relevant sountrack to the popular times.
And if you want to go off about how popular music sucks and youre not into it , just remember all those great "classic" bands thrown in my face. They were popular , relevant and foward thinking.
So know you can go back Missy Burke and list me some more bands me and 20 other people go see.
Keep us those big emo smiles kids. Negativity not allowed.
And if you want to go off about how popular music sucks and youre not into it , just remember all those great "classic" bands thrown in my face. They were popular , relevant and foward thinking.
So know you can go back Missy Burke and list me some more bands me and 20 other people go see.
Keep us those big emo smiles kids. Negativity not allowed.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:44 PM
-trunkspaceAll the time when I tell people what I do they say, "Oh I don't understand art, I can't even draw." (or worse, "I only like art I can understand.") Well, ya know what, I don't know how to make a car, but I sure appreciate being able to drive one.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:47 PM
hey look there is a ton of people and they look exactly not like the strokes
go here for rock of today (not to confused with youth of today)
-trunkspaceAll the time when I tell people what I do they say, "Oh I don't understand art, I can't even draw." (or worse, "I only like art I can understand.") Well, ya know what, I don't know how to make a car, but I sure appreciate being able to drive one.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:50 PM
that band must be obsure, heck with all those people there it's a wonder anybodys heard of them.
-trunkspaceAll the time when I tell people what I do they say, "Oh I don't understand art, I can't even draw." (or worse, "I only like art I can understand.") Well, ya know what, I don't know how to make a car, but I sure appreciate being able to drive one.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 07:57 PM
and aren't most bands obscure at one point, well except for all the bands created by record excutives consisting of hired musicians that make jingles for car comercials, oh wait they have bands do that now, but yea, it's like your defending your ignorance of "our" "obsecure" bands, those who might go on to see a major recod deal somewhere in the future, just to say an opinion that most of the people here do not agree with. rad
-trunkspaceAll the time when I tell people what I do they say, "Oh I don't understand art, I can't even draw." (or worse, "I only like art I can understand.") Well, ya know what, I don't know how to make a car, but I sure appreciate being able to drive one.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 08:10 PM
can anybody tell me what the heck this SOUTH BY SOUTH WEST THING IS or sombody mentioned something called the MICHIGAN FEST what the heck are these things, i guess they weren't backed by budweiser so they didn't get the publicity, oh wait theres something called the underground, wha now my heads a spinin, damn those blues riffs, bring back the long drawn out crescendo to drop off and start again oh wait we call that emo now right, maybe we should just change it to modern classical( it's going that direction believe me, oh wait you won't), and what the hell is this core stuff, hard core emo core grind core nard core (oxnard punk hardcore) is that like what is taking rocks place kinda like the difference between pop art and german expressionism? they are both contemporary art right, or is either dead? and yes i' going to answer my own question no, both of those art movements had peaks but neither are dead. yay
-trunkspaceAll the time when I tell people what I do they say, "Oh I don't understand art, I can't even draw." (or worse, "I only like art I can understand.") Well, ya know what, I don't know how to make a car, but I sure appreciate being able to drive one.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 08:40 PM
some of the kids in that crowd look like the strokes. but really, i was just saying that i like a mainstream band, and i should not be punished for liking them. and bloddy kinda made things clear when he said "rock no longer being the relevant sountrack to the popular times". maybe not to YOUR times, but my soundtrack is all rock...
this is just what certain people bee-leave. some people think rock is dead, and some people dont. fuck it. beer is not dead, and we can all a-gree to that...
but really, i was just saying that i like a mainstream band, and i should not be punished for liking them. and bloddy kinda made things clear when he said "rock no longer being the relevant sountrack to the popular times". maybe not to YOUR times, but my soundtrack is all rock...this is just what certain people bee-leave. some people think rock is dead, and some people dont. fuck it. beer is not dead, and we can all a-gree to that...
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 09:04 PM
yea- maybe ive had a few to many this evening ha ha
and there is nothing wrong with liking the strokes, even thought they were handed everything in with a siliverspoon, in my opinion, the first record was solid, haven't bother to listen o the new one yet though
and there is nothing wrong with liking the strokes, even thought they were handed everything in with a siliverspoon, in my opinion, the first record was solid, haven't bother to listen o the new one yet though
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