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#16 mothrock

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:37 PM

i dont say this simply to be contrarian or smart ass (moreso to say that, for me, it doesnt change the way i thought about NPR at all), i do not care in any way about this. i actually cant stand a lot of NPR simply because it is often the spineless douchey liberal cariacture that makes left leeaning people seem like a bunch of weiners.
keep FOX and NPR away from me. they both make me want to sock myself one right in the ole kisser



I am not sure how NPR is spineless and douchey, could you elaborate? It won't change my view, but I would like to understand why you think this so I maybe get a better idea of where this mindset comes.


ha! just listen to Ira Glass for like 2 minutes.

I love Ira Glass, but he is a bit of a weenie. He's no Rambo.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:53 PM

I love Lynn Rosetto Caspar, she hosts Splendid Table, Sundays at 2pm Mountain Standard time.

She is not whiney, but a little winey. Not so much weiners as franks.

And I do appreciate a lesson or two on the high life.

It allows me to take newfound knowledge to the grocer, and while I won't be springing for the $80 cut of meat,
I likely have an understanding of why the cut I do choose is better than that of those smug conservative bastards.
ha!

Juan Williams fucked up. He got fired. Big Whoop.

Yeah, he probably shouldn't have said those things, but I've heard worse.

NPR is awesome. Most other news networks turn my stomach.

Anything associated with the Christian Coalition/Right Wing politicos makes me heave and wish I didn't have to claim these numbnuts as
fellow Americans.

Tea Party? Get real! You all drink shitty coffee! Folgers can sit and spin.

Some of the recent posts in the Religion thread are whack too, but that is my opinion, and I really don't have to defend it.

This is America suckas.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:09 PM

i love me some diane rehm. and i love neal conan. i don't like listening on weekends as much. though i like prairie home companion. i dislike guy risdoll. he sounds like a douche. i guess it's kai risdall, which is even worse. weird, i never knew that before.

the only wimpy sounding dude i can think of is david sedaris, and he rules, so whatevs.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:22 PM

i dont say this simply to be contrarian or smart ass (moreso to say that, for me, it doesnt change the way i thought about NPR at all), i do not care in any way about this. i actually cant stand a lot of NPR simply because it is often the spineless douchey liberal cariacture that makes left leeaning people seem like a bunch of weiners.
keep FOX and NPR away from me. they both make me want to sock myself one right in the ole kisser



I am not sure how NPR is spineless and douchey, could you elaborate? It won't change my view, but I would like to understand why you think this so I maybe get a better idea of where this mindset comes.


ha! just listen to Ira Glass for like 2 minutes.

I love Ira Glass, but he is a bit of a weenie. He's no Rambo.


When I read Joe's comments, it sounds more like he's listening to the stereotype of NPR (like the skits on SNL) than the actual stations.
I agree that the on air staff is mostly soft spoken, but whiney? I don't hear it--a high pitched voice isn't a whine.
I do think though, there's a sense in the US that if you're not a screaming chest beater in a wife beater then you're somehow not a strong person.
Based on that cliche, no one on NPR qualifies.
I think the folks who get on the air there, get there because they're good at their jobs, and have shown chops in their chosen profession.
The fact that they don't bark the news like an AM radio host is nothing but a plus to me.
I'm willing to take the information from them, and decide if it jibes w/ what I hear elsewhere myself.

Do I like everyone and everything on NPR, nope, but I don't like everything I encounter everywhere either.
(love = Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, Radio Lab, On The Media, Hate = Splended Table).

bringing this back around . . . so, is there the sense that Juan Williams was, in the eyes of the npr elite, acting tuff and trying to come across as not-whimpy on fox?
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:25 PM

I dunno, admitting you piss your pants every time you see a turban in an airport doesn't sound very tuff.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:27 PM

here's a really whiny story about whiny communist liberals.

http://www.npr.org/t...?storyId=903890
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:27 PM


fair enough :)


I guess there is a guy with kind of a lisp or hair lip who occasionally reports on there, and Diane Rheem(spelling?) can be a little painful to listen to at first, but the content of her show has always been cool with me. Other than that, I never considered anyone on there whiny. I don't really listen on the weekends so I don't really listen to this American Life. They aren't yelling at the audience, like some other stations do, so I can understand how you could take it as soft voiced.


I guess I don't need people yelling at me to give me the news. I also DON'T want opinions when I get the news, I only want the facts. Side comments can be ok if it's non-political. I read that CNN is losing ratings because they aren't opinionated like FOX news which I think is lame.

I like spineless and douchey News and I have no issues with that as long as I get my facts.

no, im saying that the news segments i am fine with-thats what news SHOULD be like. its everything else on there that is just so annoyingly fey.


AH!

ok, yeah, I misunderstood ya :)

I pretty much only listen to the news and news shows like Morning Edition and All Things Considered. I don't listen to much else except maybe marketplace if I leave work late.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:55 PM

Fresh Air FTW.

I love me some Terri Gross.




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Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:42 PM

I dunno, admitting you piss your pants every time you see a turban in an airport doesn't sound very tuff.



Tuff in the sense that he'd voice the non PC opinion in public.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:26 AM

i can't really listen to npr at work because i get distracted and zone off listening and not getting any work done. <_<
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:18 AM

NPR is more entertainment than a news outlet for me.

wiretap, prairie home companion, wait wait, says you, this American life, splendid table, Tavis Smiley

It's awesome to clean your kitchen to after eating.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:55 AM

NPR is more entertainment than a news outlet for me.

wiretap, prairie home companion, wait wait, says you, this American life, splendid table, Tavis Smiley

It's awesome to clean your kitchen to after eating.


I miss wiretap.
Went to see 'em live in Mesa. which was kinda cool.

Haven't done the podast or what have you. I'm not a "time shifter" for the entertainment, I like to make it a "date".
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 10:52 AM

I like NPR. Sure, a lot of it is liberal cliche's, but they do news well, as others have mentioned. I usually only listen during commutes to and from work, and sometimes on the weekends. I think there are world music shows that I really like. But that might be WORT (a local community radio station), I get them mixed up sometimes.

But yeah, the "lifestyle" pieces are pretentious and pointless. "Let's illustrate how we identify with "ordinary folks" with a random story about some random old lady who lost her son in The War." That's when I flip over to Big Boi's Neighborhood and/or Stephanie Miller.

And I cannot fucking stand Garrison Keillor. I want to hurl the most vulgar, profane, offensive homophobic epithets at him until he fucking drowns in metaphorical semen. He is, to me, the epitome of the pretentious NPR fuck with the "folksy" exterior. May he metaphorically die of some horrible sexually-transmitted disease.
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 11:20 AM

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:19 PM

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i don't get it.
sorry.
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