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[Quezo]

yes Tony, but the fats in coconut cream are much less fattening than those in cream.

Easier to digest as well.

I would use the coconut, and eat more of it.

[differently biotic]

I would use the coconut, and eat more of it.

me too.

and if you need to add fat extra virgin olive oil or straight up coconut oil(for cooking). Add the flavor/fat you miss when you cook veggie friendly.

[Ninjaneer]

I'm not too concerned with the flavor, as it will have blue cheese and rosemary in it (which are both pretty strong flavors in my opinion), but the consistancy mostly. Thnks for all of the suggestions though

[Tony]

yes Tony, but the fats in coconut cream are much less fattening than those in cream.

Easier to digest as well.

I would use the coconut, and eat more of it.

right on.

my point was, the sauce will be better with fatty liquid. not just better tasting, but a better consistency, because the fat is what keeps it from separating. i'd think almond milk would make a watery/grainy cheese sauce. coconut cream likely would not.

although i'm still not going to endorse making a cheese sauce with coconut cream. if you really wanted to be healthy, you wouldn't be eating gnocchi with blue cheese sauce anyway.

[differently biotic]

gnocchi are little pillows of fat/carb heaven.

[Tony]

and if you need to add fat extra virgin olive oil or straight up coconut oil(for cooking). Add the flavor/fat you miss when you cook veggie friendly.

that's not going to work in this case. not for a cheese sauce. i don't remember the science behind it, but something about the fats being different - it's going to make the sauce oily (obviously, since you're adding oil). it's not going to thicken it like it should, and the cheese will separate. you need different fat types to give it the right texture.

[Quezo]

and if you need to add fat extra virgin olive oil or straight up coconut oil(for cooking). Add the flavor/fat you miss when you cook veggie friendly.

that's not going to work in this case. not for a cheese sauce. i don't remember the science behind it, but something about the fats being different - it's going to make the sauce oily (obviously, since you're adding oil). it's not going to thicken it like it should, and the cheese will separate. you need different fat types to give it the right texture.

Dude! Fucking velveeta and govt cheese ARE oil and various other fats that are not cheese.

Psyiense rawks!

[differently biotic]

it always turned out good for me. Leftovers it would seperate when reheated but other than that...

[Ninjaneer]

Cheese melts because it has a fatty protein matrix that breaks down and become a bonding agent when it gets heated up. The fattier the cheese, the less likely it is to seperate.

And you will note I said slightly healthier. I'm half Italian, so as far as I'm concerned, I am genetically designed for carbohydrate consumption.

[Tony]

and if you need to add fat extra virgin olive oil or straight up coconut oil(for cooking). Add the flavor/fat you miss when you cook veggie friendly.

that's not going to work in this case. not for a cheese sauce. i don't remember the science behind it, but something about the fats being different - it's going to make the sauce oily (obviously, since you're adding oil). it's not going to thicken it like it should, and the cheese will separate. you need different fat types to give it the right texture.

Dude! Fucking velveeta and govt cheese ARE oil and various other fats that are not cheese.

Psyiense rawks!

i wouldn't make sauce for gnocchi out of velveeta, but that's irrelevant.

also, i know processed cheese isn't real cheese.

i guess i'm just having a hard time with an oil based cheese sauce. it seems like it should be dairy (or the vegan equivalent) - heavy saturated fats. you're telling me olive oil and cheese (actual cheese, not faux cheese) melts together nicely for a sauce? if you say so, but i've honestly never tried it.

dude, if we didn't already have so much going on for shizzfest i'd say we should have some sort of cookoff. not like a contest cookoff, but like a "hey, you mean you've never tried this? well come here and eat it goddammit" cookoff.

in conclusion, my buerre blanc sauce was 2,200 calories of buttery creamy goodness.

[Ninjaneer]

dude, if we didn't already have so much going on for shizzfest i'd say we should have some sort of cookoff. not like a contest cookoff, but like a "hey, you mean you've never tried this? well come here and eat it goddammit" cookoff.

I would drive to Arizona for this.

[Quezo]

and if you need to add fat extra virgin olive oil or straight up coconut oil(for cooking). Add the flavor/fat you miss when you cook veggie friendly.

that's not going to work in this case. not for a cheese sauce. i don't remember the science behind it, but something about the fats being different - it's going to make the sauce oily (obviously, since you're adding oil). it's not going to thicken it like it should, and the cheese will separate. you need different fat types to give it the right texture.

Dude! Fucking velveeta and govt cheese ARE oil and various other fats that are not cheese.

Psyiense rawks!

i wouldn't make sauce for gnocchi out of velveeta, but that's irrelevant.

also, i know processed cheese isn't real cheese.

i guess i'm just having a hard time with an oil based cheese sauce. it seems like it should be dairy (or the vegan equivalent) - heavy saturated fats. you're telling me olive oil and cheese (actual cheese, not faux cheese) melts together nicely for a sauce? if you say so, but i've honestly never tried it.

dude, if we didn't already have so much going on for shizzfest i'd say we should have some sort of cookoff. not like a contest cookoff, but like a "hey, you mean you've never tried this? well come here and eat it goddammit" cookoff.

in conclusion, my buerre blanc sauce was 2,200 calories of buttery creamy goodness.

We should do that anyway sir. We could make it a contest if you like. We have similar likes and such.

Even if you're not a vegan (i am not), daiya cheese is pretty great. It actually melts!

dude, if we didn't already have so much going on for shizzfest i'd say we should have some sort of cookoff. not like a contest cookoff, but like a "hey, you mean you've never tried this? well come here and eat it goddammit" cookoff.

I would drive to Arizona for this.

Drive to Arizona for this. (or shizzfest. there will be parties at my house!)

[Ninjaneer]

Wound up making the gnocchi with the cream. Sauteed some wild mushrooms in olive oil, garlic, rosemary and maderia, and then added the cream, stilton and gnocchi. Big hit.

[jeremx]

wasabi mix from river trail foods. picked up a bunch from frys yesterday before work. nice'n spicy.

(just tried to go to their site and either they're still working on it {despite printing it on the packaging} or their domain expired. doh

[HNIC]

or their domain expired. doh

Get on that shit slacker...