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[ToroRojo]

I'll bite...

If the war against terror is a devil's game, what do you propose we do to protect ourselves?

Disclaimer: I am playing devil's advocate here. I support A war on terror, but not the one run similar to or by the current administration.

[unluckycharm]

haha,

relax toro, it's a joke. i know not everyone can be reduced to all 'good' or 'evil.'

[ToroRojo]

Yeah, I know it's a joke.

As soon as I hit the post button, I knew I shoulda just let it slide. Politics can get me worked up easily sometimes. It's just a fucked up world sometimes and I feel a little powerless to do anything about it...

[mikemfer]

Forget the earpiece, what about the strings? How else could the puppet master get him to make those faces?

[brian mcphail]

Here's a nice example of a tax loophole:

President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)
(Oct 9; CORRECTION: What we originally reported as a "timber-growing" enterprise is actually described on Bush's tax return as an "oil and gas production" concern, the Lone Star Trust. We were confused because The Lone Star Trust currently owns 50% of another company, "LSTF, LLC", described on Bush’s 2003 financial disclosure forms as a limited-liability company organized "for the purpose of the production of trees for commercial sales." So, Bush does own part interest in a tree-growing company, but the $84 came from an oil and gas company and we should have reported it as such.)

Vice President Cheney and his wife Lynne qualify as "small business owners" for 2003 because 3.5% of the total income reported on their tax returns was business income from Mrs. Cheney's consulting business. She reported $44,580 in business income on Schedule C, nearly all of it from fees paid to her as a director of the Reader's Digest . But giving the Cheneys a tax cut didn't stimulate any hiring; she reported zero employees.
Other examples of those counted as "small businesses" would include doctors, lawyers, accountants and management consultants who organize their practices as partnerships, and journalists who accept occasional fees for speeches or articles.

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[thebiggameover]

so in this 3rd debate, THE BUSH was asked about min. wage. it took him 2 seconds to change topic. JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU FUCKHEAD!!

[ShawnPhase]

this is fucking embarrassing bullshit. im sorry.

did you guys see that big glob of spit on bush's face?

[Danosaur]

Bush says he prays for his little girls...what that they don't get plastered and fuck up his campaign?

[thebiggameover]

did you guys see that big glob of spit on bush's face?

that was a great KS!

[donald]

what did you guys think of it, I listened to part of it on npr whilce I was
driving from work.

[SomethingElse]

http://www.nytimes.c...ed=2&oref=login

for anyone that's curious about who was really exaggerating...

kerry whooped up on bush, again! are there any dissenters out there? any bush supporters on the board? come out, come out, wherever you are.

[nathan]

Bush appeared sleepy and just ready for the whole thing to be over. He has no concrete plans and always reiterates leadership as his enduring quality. He never responded to the claim that the top 1% of American earners received $84 billlion dollars in tax cuts last year and Kerry said that probably 4 times. I was surprised to see alot of young Bush supporters on campus during the various live news shows, that scares me.

[Colin]

I think it's kind of funny (well, not funny ha ha) that Bush's favorite response in these debates is to talk about how "liberal" Kerry is. First of all, Kerry's not that liberal, particularly when compared to, say, Ralph Nader or Howard Dean. Secondly, since when is Bush a moderate? I can't think of a single issue that he toes the line on. From abortion to gay marriage to the military to his economic policies to the expansion of powers of the executive branch, Bush is about as right wing as politicians get. Do people really buy into him being moderate and cooperative? Why?

[woodman]

Colin....


It's because he SAYS he is, get it?