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[The Real Jeffrey Lebowski]

The Onion - More American Voices

John McCain's campaign bus collided with a van on Wednesday. What do you think?

"Wait, the Straight Talk Express is not a train? I imagined it looked like Thomas, the Tank Engine, except much angrier."

[raubhimself]

http://news.aol.com/...or-mccain/#cont

Former POW who attended the Naval Academy with McCain says some interesting things, notably:

John is not a religious person, but he has taken every opportunity to ally himself with some really obnoxious and crazy fundamentalist ministers lately. Ø I was also disappointed to see him cozy up to Bush because I know he hates that man.

Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969. After September of 1969 the Vietnamese stopped the torture and gave us increased food and rudimentary health care. Several hundred of us were captured much earlier. I got there April 20, 1965 so my bad treatment period lasted 4 1/2 years.

[fatguyaz]

i'm not a McCain supporter by any means, but geez... questioning HOW MUCH he was tortured while he was a POW? That;s kinda lame. Give the guy a break, he got pretty fucked up, regardless.

He is/was a lot tougher than i am, that's for sure.

[The Real Jeffrey Lebowski]

Interesting Andrew Sullivan quote found via DailyKos

In all the discussion of John McCain's recently recovered memory of a religious epiphany in Vietnam, one thing has been missing. The torture that was deployed against McCain emerges in all the various accounts. It involved sleep deprivation, the withholding of medical treatment, stress positions, long-time standing, and beating. Sound familiar?

According to the Bush administration's definition of torture, McCain was therefore not tortured.

Cheney denies that McCain was tortured; as does Bush. So do John Yoo and David Addington and George Tenet. In the one indisputably authentic version of the story of a Vietnamese guard showing compassion, McCain talks of the agony of long-time standing. A quarter century later, Don Rumsfeld was putting his signature to memos lengthening the agony of "long-time standing" that victims of Bush's torture regime would have to endure. These torture techniques are, according to the president of the United States, merely "enhanced interrogation."

No war crimes were committed against McCain. And the techniques used are, according to the president, tools to extract accurate information. And so the false confessions that McCain was forced to make were, according to the logic of the Bush administration, as accurate as the "intelligence" we have procured from "interrogating" terror suspects. Feel safer?

D'oh!

[raubhimself]

i'm not a McCain supporter by any means, but geez... questioning HOW MUCH he was tortured while he was a POW? That;s kinda lame. Give the guy a break, he got pretty fucked up, regardless.

He is/was a lot tougher than i am, that's for sure.

Yeah but that guy got tortured for nearly 3 more years than McCain so... His point is valid, don't use that as a platform for your campaign.

[fatguyaz]

what a kiss ass.

[chadk]

Clinton is going to be so pissed

[Jacki O.]

what a douche! He picked a woman to counter the bullshit anti-women policies he promotes.

This sucks because a lot of women don't know about his anti-safe healthcare beliefs and will think he's such a moderate because he has a woman VP and vote for him!


ugh, makes me hate him even more


Palin is just as anti-choice/freedom as McCain
"Palin opposes a woman’s right to choose. Palin has also stated her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape or incest."

fuck that bullshit

[mancopter]

what a douche! He picked a woman to counter the bullshit anti-women policies he promotes.

This sucks because a lot of women don't know about his anti-safe healthcare beliefs and will think he's such a moderate because he has a woman VP and vote for him!


ugh, makes me hate him even more


Palin is just as anti-choice/freedom as McCain
"Palin opposes a woman’s right to choose. Palin has also stated her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape or incest."

fuck that bullshit

It was a brilliant political move, but the douchbaggery of it knows no bounds.

[fatguyaz]

good political move = kiss ass

[allisonorphan]

what a douche! He picked a woman to counter the bullshit anti-women policies he promotes.

This sucks because a lot of women don't know about his anti-safe healthcare beliefs and will think he's such a moderate because he has a woman VP and vote for him!


ugh, makes me hate him even more


Palin is just as anti-choice/freedom as McCain
"Palin opposes a woman’s right to choose. Palin has also stated her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape or incest."

fuck that bullshit

what i find interesting is that she is already getting heat on more conservative online forums for her choice to take the role as running mate as she is a mother of 5 children, one of of whom has special needs. they are questioning her stance on pro life when she is "abandoning" her family in their eyes.

i found that somewhat interesting. whatever the outcome may be in the long run, i am hoping that perhaps her more public role (be it temporary or not) now could be used in a way to bring awareness, funding, etc to downs and other early childhood special needs issues.

[mancopter]

good political move = kiss ass

Actually, I say that because I'm a little terrified of the possible result.

[fatguyaz]

yeah, it might just be douchebagetty enough to work.

douchebaggy?

Whats the proper usage here?

[Tony]

she was the mayor of a small alaskan town 2 years ago. and i mean small. census data is from 2000, but wasilla, alaska only had 5,400 people in it. that's roughly half the size of sedona. then she became governor. now she's the VP choice? what the fuck?

i think mccain is pandering by picking a woman. he knows he'll trick some people to hopping on his ticket with that choice. so politically, maybe a smart move to pick a female running mate especially since so many people wanted hillary on the democratic ticket. but you're telling me there were NO other women in the republican party with a better resume than sarah pallin? not one? really?

[Quezo]

I've heard her called "Vice President MILF" already.