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[Quezo]

I think this is my favorite movie of all time, and it hasn't even been released yet.

Tell me about it! Sheesh!

DeNiro as a Pearce/Arpaio amalgamation? Nice.

Jeff Fahey looking creepy as usual? Yes.

Danny Trejo finally getting the star vehicle he deserves? Oh yeah.

For some reason I feel like I am going to look a lot like him when I get older.

[chalupacabra]

I think this is my favorite movie of all time, and it hasn't even been released yet.

Tell me about it! Sheesh!

DeNiro as a Pearce/Arpaio amalgamation? Nice.

Jeff Fahey looking creepy as usual? Yes.

Danny Trejo finally getting the star vehicle he deserves? Oh yeah.

For some reason I feel like I am going to look a lot like him when I get older.

Jeff Fahey, didn't know his actual name but I was like..."ITS FRANK LIPIDUS!!"

[differently biotic]

Jeff Fahey will always be the lawnmower man to me. When he first appeared in Lost I yelled LAWNMOWER MAN!

[Jacki O.]

New trailer for MACHETE by Robert Rodriguez, especially for us Arizonans.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44943

This movie needs to come out NOW!

"We didn't cross the border! The border crossed us!"

Oh, how I love you Jessica Alba. (& we share a birthday!)

yes that movie looks fucking awesome!!!!

i wish it was set in AZ - looks like texas though

de niro is senator "mclaughlin"

[Coward Crutch]

http://www.azcentral...ns-jerseys.html

"In announcing that the Suns would wear their "Los Suns" jerseys in recognition of playing Game 2 against San Antonio on Cinco de Mayo on Wednesday, Sarver also addressed the immigration bill that has been a divisive national topic since Gov. Jan Brewer enacted it into law April 23"

"The frustration with the federal government's failure to deal with the issue of illegal immigration resulted in passage of a flawed state law," Sarver said in a statement released by the Suns on Tuesday morning. "However intended, the result of passing this law is that our basic principles of equal rights and protection under the law are being called into question, and Arizona's already struggling economy will suffer even further setbacks at a time when the state can ill-afford them."


"There are times you need to stand up and be heard," Sarver said. "I respect people's views on the other side but I just felt it was appropriate for me to stand up and make a statement."

I'm glad that Sarver opted to take a stance on behalf of the team. He could have very easily taken a more pc route and said that the jerseys were in the spirit of cinco de mayo....

[Rial]

http://sports.espn.g...e=Sarver-100504

[chalupacabra]

http://sports.espn.g...e=Sarver-100504

This is all really awesome. Makes me want to kick him in the nuts less for the pissing contest that let Joe Johnson get away.

[donald]

From KPHO.com:


The Rev. Al Sharpton, Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon and Hispanic leaders will lead a Wednesday evening march to the State Capitol in a protest against Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigration.
Slideshow: Sharpton Arrives In Phoenix

Sharpton, along with city leaders, activists, clergy and representatives from over 30 community groups, will spearhead a rally at 6 p.m. at Pilgrim Rest Baptist Church, 1401 E. Jefferson St.
The march will begin at about 8 p.m., organizers said.



http://www.kpho.com/...279/detail.html

[MikeyWretch]

From KPHO.com:


The Rev. Al Sharpton, Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon and Hispanic leaders will lead a Wednesday evening march to the State Capitol in a protest against Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigration.
Slideshow: Sharpton Arrives In Phoenix

Sharpton, along with city leaders, activists, clergy and representatives from over 30 community groups, will spearhead a rally at 6 p.m. at Pilgrim Rest Baptist Church, 1401 E. Jefferson St.
The march will begin at about 8 p.m., organizers said.



http://www.kpho.com/...279/detail.html

WORD! I cant think of a better place to be tonight.

[donald]

anyone who wants to meet up let me know.


if you want my number, PM me.


This is important, and this is history in the making.

I can't do alot, but I will do whatever I can to oppose this bill.

[Jacki O.]

yamobethere

[Tony]

the number of people on both sides of the argument who have not actually read the entire bill is mind numbing. it's only like 2 pages long. at a minimum, please read the bill so that you can argue intelligently.

i'm not picking on anyone on here, or any single person in particular, but the more i read about this bill the more frustrated i get because it seems like a classic example of people arguing a point for so long that they forget about exactly what they started fighting about in the first place - there's just a "i'm right, you're wrong" mentality, and it's impacting both sides. this is not a binary issue (i intentionally didn't say "black or white" because it would sound too much like a pun) and everyone who feels strongly about it should be informed with actual facts, not just political rhetoric. the sad thing is that it actually took me a while to find facts related to immigration and this bill in particular that were not decidedly slanted.

for the record, i oppose the bill. i've stated elsewhere that i think there is a real problem with border security and illegal immigration, but i don't think this bill solves that problem, and i question how law enforcement will interpret it and enforce it fairly. i'm also furious that our government acted so quickly on an issue that is so polarizing, and it could cost us tens of millions of dollars, all the while saying "70% of people are in favor of it". in the meantime, nobody knows who those 70% are or if they even understood what they were agreeing with.

in conclusion, just about everyone involved has failed: the politicians who introduced the bill and signed it into law, the "impartial" media on both sides who have either distorted the facts or elected not to report them at all, and the people arguing about this without even understanding what it is they're fighting about or who it hurts.

america: where you can succeed while knowing as little as possible as long as you yell loud enough.

[donald]

the number of people on both sides of the argument who have not actually read the entire bill is mind numbing. it's only like 2 pages long. at a minimum, please read the bill so that you can argue intelligently.

i'm not picking on anyone on here, or any single person in particular, but the more i read about this bill the more frustrated i get because it seems like a classic example of people arguing a point for so long that they forget about exactly what they started fighting about in the first place - there's just a "i'm right, you're wrong" mentality, and it's impacting both sides. this is not a binary issue (i intentionally didn't say "black or white" because it would sound too much like a pun) and everyone who feels strongly about it should be informed with actual facts, not just political rhetoric. the sad thing is that it actually took me a while to find facts related to immigration and this bill in particular that were not decidedly slanted.

for the record, i oppose the bill. i've stated elsewhere that i think there is a real problem with border security and illegal immigration, but i don't think this bill solves that problem, and i question how law enforcement will interpret it and enforce it fairly. i'm also furious that our government acted so quickly on an issue that is so polarizing, and it could cost us tens of millions of dollars, all the while saying "70% of people are in favor of it". in the meantime, nobody knows who those 70% are or if they even understood what they were agreeing with.

in conclusion, just about everyone involved has failed: the politicians who introduced the bill and signed it into law, the "impartial" media on both sides who have either distorted the facts or elected not to report them at all, and the people arguing about this without even understanding what it is they're fighting about or who it hurts.

america: where you can succeed while knowing as little as possible as long as you yell loud enough.

agreed that it is blown out of proportion on both sides, also, I dont think the link you gave (although it's from the azleg.gov website) is the current 1070 with the new changes in it. The version I had was a PDF and stuff like the word "soley" has since been removed.


Items like the ability to take to court cops who don't do their job in asking someones legal status, opens up red flags for me.
This creates distrust of everyone involved, and is very Orwellian if you ask me, but I will admit I am a little biased.

Allows a person who is a legal resident of this state to bring an action in superior court to challenge officials and agencies of the state, counties, cities, towns or other political subdivisions that adopt or implement a policy that limits or restricts the enforcement of federal immigration laws to less than the full extent permitted by federal law.

what gets me is this

Requires officials and agencies to reasonably attempt to determine the immigration status of a person involved in a lawful contact where reasonable suspicion exists regarding the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

So they are required to get status during lawful contact, except if it may hinder or obstruct an investigation. (but someone can still sue?)

Not sure about that.

I would love to have a discussion over all the bits of this.

[raubhimself]

Good news on my end. Apparently this "Arizona-like" proposal doesn't sit well with a lot of local law enforcement and the mayor of Lancaster seems to think it's pretty lame.
http://articles.lanc.../local/4/253661

Fight the power dudes.

[MikeyWretch]

Capatin America even showed up last night!