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[fatguyaz]

as long as they were all on fridays or all in one week, i'd be down.


I'm 'a buy me a foot massager!! Wing ding diddly ding ding doo!!

[Jacki O.]

I remember thinking there was no way Bush would be re-elected to another term. I was quite wrong. I hope this time around the Dems succeed.

I remember thinking that too. I even bet my father money that Bush would not get re-elected.

[glitterbot]

I'm sure many of you on this Site already know about this, but it's a pretty well written article.
We're Gonna Frickin' Lose This Thing, otherwise known as "Support for the Douchebag"

I'm not a big fan of the despair expressed in the first half of it, but wholeheartedly agree with the tactics mentioned in the second half.

While folks shouldn't put up the white flags, Camp Obama / Biden definitely needs to re-focus what's going on.

As a sidenote, the Obama AZ headquarters is in downtown Phoenix - 6th Street, south of Roosevelt - essentially in the same neighborhood as Lost Leaf and Conspire:

http://my.barackobam...azofficeopening

http://maps.google.c...&...&iwloc=addr

The office opening is tomorrow at 4pm.

Jeez louise, they really went all out with the new headquarters, huh? I mean seriously. I realize that looks aren't everything, but I think they could have found a more impressive location for the AZ Obama headquarters. Appearances DO matter to a degree, and I think someone who is on the fence in AZ might get the impression that Obama's campaign in AZ isn't being taken too seriously. This is a city of over 4,000,000 people and I would think they would make an effort to look a little less podunk. I would also think they would have been better off picking a spot that is more high profile, with more passerby traffic. I am speaking based on the google StreetView of the property, of course. Maybe that image is way out of date.

I was going to drive down today, but I have the feeling that parking could be a pain in the ass.

[mothrock]

recipe theft on the trail to the white house!!

sorry if that got posted already. Even if it isn't true, it's still funny.

[glitterbot]

recipe theft on the trail to the white house!!

sorry if that got posted already. Even if it isn't true, it's still funny.

I also liked her pretending to have met Mother Teresa! She's not just arm-candy, she lies too.

[glitterbot]

wow, i hate to double-post, but speaking of stealing! i just saw a new mccain commercial where they basically have stolen one of the slogans from the dnc. It's Not Change, It's More of the Same. I mean seriously, can they not even write their own slogans??

[jomama]

wow, i hate to double-post, but speaking of stealing! i just saw a new mccain commercial where they basically have stolen one of the slogans from the dnc. It's Not Change, It's More of the Same. I mean seriously, can they not even write their own slogans??

I feel like I have been playing devils advocate on this thread because it is so one sided, but I have to agree on how douchey it is that McCain has stolen Obama's original campaign of change.

Obama is basically saying Hey we need change from the current administration and somehow McCain is doing the same thing but it's more like he is saying Since we are the ones who broke everything, we are the ones that know how to fix it.

My thoughts are not original, I was listening to NPR this morning.

[glitterbot]

maybe mccain camp thinks if both campaigns are saying exactly the same thing, people will get confused and not know who to vote for. OH WAIT! that is exactly what will happen. people are stupid.

"I'm a maverick!"
"I'm a pit bull!"
"WE LOVE CHANGE!"

bullshit.

[raubhimself]

I feel like I have been playing devils advocate on this thread because it is so one sided, but I have to agree on how douchey it is that McCain has stolen Obama's original campaign of change.

Obama is basically saying Hey we need change from the current administration and somehow McCain is doing the same thing but it's more like he is saying Since we are the ones who broke everything, we are the ones that know how to fix it.

One of McCain's speeches at the RNC was talking about change and being tough on big spending. But then he basically just said "Any liberal plan that requires lots of money is gonna get my veto".

Ugh.

[Jacki O.]

This thread is pretty one-sided but that's because there is so much shit out there against McCain - it's hard to not want to talk about.

The republicans and their "we're against Big Government" is such bullshit!

McCain WILL increase the federal government's role in your life - he has consistently voted on legislation to increase the federal government's role in reproductive healthcare issues - he co-sponsored the partial birth abortion ban bill as well as the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act (in the 109th congress) and the Unborn Victims of Violence Act (in the 108th congress). All of these bill increased the federal government's role in healthcare in america. More needless legislation that is aimed at taking away personal freedoms and making it more difficult for U.S. citizens to get the healthcare they need and want.

And it is Republican politicans who are constantly trying to get federal admendments passed that define marriage! Why do we need federal legislation on marriage? The republican party has mixed up its mission with religion and is now wasting our time and money on laws about who we can marry.

We all saw the increases in federal government under the republican Bush administration. Bush and his republican led congress presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lydon B. Johnson - this is even after you exclude the spending on defense and homeland security (another federal government administrative office created by Bush).

The republican congress pushed through budgets for 101 of the largest programs in the federal government. Bush requested $91 billion dollars for domestic programs while Clinton only spend $57 billion. In the past 8 years, not a single cabinet-level agency shrunk in size or federal spending, they all increased dramatically. Facts

We currently live under the rule of the largest civil government, measured in budgetary terms, in history. Federal spending alone in fiscal year 2006 was over $2.7 trillion, which means the federal government spends about $7.4 billion a day or $5.1 million in every minute of the year. This is 815 times the level of federal spending in 1930. And this is under a republican led white house and congress.More Truth

Bush increased federal spending by 45%!!!!! Comparitively Clinton increased federal spending by 32% in eight years - in the first 4 years of his presidency Bush increased federal spending by 23%!! Bush's "Renewing America's Purpose" plan - which he used when running for president in 2000 actually calls for more increased federal government intervention in U.S. citizen's lives.

What does all this have to do with McCain?
McCain has voted for 90% of Bush endorsed legislation!!! McCain currently has 7 top campaign advisors who also coincidently are washington lobbyists - out to get federal money for their special interest corporations, with the help from politicians who will pass off the buck to us in corporate tax cuts, detrimental subsidies and rampant environmental violations. This is McCain's old stomping ground, he likes to help out corporations - check out his Keating Scandal involvement which contributed to US tax payers having to shell out over $124 million dollars from 1980-1990 to get us out of the housing scandals that politicians and big business crafted.

McCain is a republican and just because the republican party has said they are against big governments, doesn't mean they practice what they preach.

In his speeches McCain has called for "reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs" but when asked, he failed to cite a single program that he would reduce or eliminate!

McCain has promised to increse the use of wind, tide and solar energy in America through his energy plan but the plan contains no new money for renewable energy.

McCain has said that Obama has voted for Corporate welfare for oil companies in tax credits - but Obama's voting record shows he voted to increase taxes on oil companies and taking that revenue and investing in it renewable energy sources.

McCain is currently running ads that state that Obama's tax plan calls for "years of deficits", "no balanced budgets" and "billions in new government spending" - that is all wrong and misleading, actually Obama's plan will cut taxes for 95% of working families!!! Under McCain's tax plan there are still tax cuts but they are less than Obama's - under Obama's plan an individual making between 37-66K a year will see an average savings of over $1,000 - under McCain's the average savings will be a little over $300! That's over $700 LESS. I don't know about you but I could sure use that $700!!!!!

And McCain's own tax reform plan will increase the U.S. deficit - actually both candidtates plans increase the U.S. deficit - but McCain plan increases the debt by $5 trillion vs Obama's $3.5 trillion increase. And several bipartisan economic advisors have concluded that McCain's plan to balance the budget is uncredible and very unlikely to happen based a review of the plan - provided by McCain's senior economic adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin. Fucking A

Also don't forget the political maneuvering by the Bush administration to increase the power that the White House holds in the federal government. Checks and balences were supposed to keep our government from becoming monopolized, and when you attempt to circumvent those checks and balences, we start to lose our way in democracy.


But I guess that THIS year's Republican Party is TOTALLY different than the one that was in charge for the last 8 years. TOTALLY different people who are going to change the way they've been doing business! They swear, really they are going to change things from the way they've been running them lately. They promise. Just keep them in power.

[fatguyaz]

you can say that again.

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Jeez louise, they really went all out with the new headquarters, huh? I mean seriously. I realize that looks aren't everything, but I think they could have found a more impressive location for the AZ Obama headquarters. Appearances DO matter to a degree, and I think someone who is on the fence in AZ might get the impression that Obama's campaign in AZ isn't being taken too seriously. This is a city of over 4,000,000 people and I would think they would make an effort to look a little less podunk. I would also think they would have been better off picking a spot that is more high profile, with more passerby traffic. I am speaking based on the google StreetView of the property, of course. Maybe that image is way out of date.

I was going to drive down today, but I have the feeling that parking could be a pain in the ass.

I actually thought it was cool that they're running their operations from a house off of Roosevelt (it's been a few different art spaces in the past) rather than just a set of offices in an office building or by taking over a chunk of a strip mall or whatever. It just seems more accessible.

I don't know that anyone on the fence about who they're voting for would be informed enough to even know or care where any candidate's hq was.

I haven't seen what it looked like on Google, but being there in person yesterday, it seems pretty comparable to 5th Street just with fewer houses converted to businesses or art spaces, which is to say it looks pretty okay.

[DoctorShumway]

McCain has voted for 90% of Bush endorsed legislation!!!

Actually the updated Congressional numbers put him at 95%. What a maverick!

[The Real Jeffrey Lebowski]

McCain has voted for 90% of Bush endorsed legislation!!!

Actually the updated Congressional numbers put him at 95%. What a maverick!

I can't even begin to imagine what constitutes that other 5%.

<shudder>

Ok, so it's not directly McCain related, but this shit (found via Crooks & Liars) is so amazing, you'd swear it's from The Onion

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.

State election rules allow parties to assign “election challengers” to polls to monitor the election. In addition to observing the poll workers, these volunteers can challenge the eligibility of any voter provided they “have a good reason to believe” that the person is not eligible to vote. One allowable reason is that the person is not a “true resident of the city or township.”

The Michigan Republicans’ planned use of foreclosure lists is apparently an attempt to challenge ineligible voters as not being “true residents.”

Wow...That sure is something...


I yearn to return to the days when I thought Hacksaw Jim Duggan was America, and not all these guys fuckin' around so much.

Ok, you caught me. This was all just a flimsy pretext to post a Hacksaw Jim Duggan picture. HOOOOO!

[eraser]

Then, Dan Savage makes it all clear as to why people would want to make Bristol Palin's pregnancy and issue:

http://www.avclub.co...tent/node/86237

Speaking of hot teenagers and asshole parents and vows that you may come to regret…

The 17-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin, the GOP's vice-presidential nominee, is pregnant. The news was released by the McCain campaign during a busy news week—a major hurricane, the Republican National Convention, Dick Cheney getting us into a war with Russia—so it may not have received the coverage it deserved. So allow me to bring you up to date, gentle readers…

Seventeen-year-old Bristol Palin got her ass knocked up five or so months ago by 18-year-old Levi Johnston. Among the hobbies listed on Levi's since-yanked MySpace page—"fishing, shoot some shit, and just fuckin' chillin'"—was this revealing tidbit: "I don't want kids." But Bristol, says her mom, "made the decision on her own to keep the baby," and is now engaged to Levi "Shootin' Shit" Johnston.

As the adoptive parent of a child born to a pair of unwed teenagers, I'm certainly not in favor of abortion in all circumstances. But I believe that it's a choice teenagers should be able to make for themselves—with input from their families whenever possible—and, so it seems, does the GOP's VP nominee. Sarah Palin is pleased that her daughter made the decision—on her own—to keep the baby.

But Sarah Palin doesn't believe that other girls should be able to make their own decisions. Sarah Palin believes abortion should be illegal in almost every instance—including rape and incest. So Bristol Palin is being celebrated for making a choice that Sarah Palin would like to take away from all other American women. Apparently, today's GOP believes that choice is a special right reserved for the wayward daughters of Republican elected officials.

Oh, and Sarah Palin also believes that birth control shouldn't be made available to teenagers, she opposes medically accurate sex education, and she backs abstinence-until-marriage sex "education."

Sigh.

The GOP has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into abstinence "education" programs during the Bush years. I believe this enormous investment of public funds raises the obvious question: Is our children abstaining? Sarah Palin's aren't. Despite this massive outlay on the part of the American taxpayer and the example set by her Christian parents, Bristol Palin became sexually active while still in high school. Excuse me, but if abstinence education can't keep the daughter of the evangelical governor of Alaska off the cock, what hope is there for the daughters—and some of the sons—of average Americans?

I'm a cad for even writing this, of course, because shortly before Bristol and Levi were paraded before cheering throngs at the Republican National Convention, the Palins asked the media to respect their daughter's privacy.

Another special right: When it comes to respecting your family's privacy, Palin and the GOP see no need. They want to micromanage the most intimate aspects of your private life. And if their own kids fail to live up to the standards that Palin and the GOP seek to impose on your family, well, that's a private matter between the Palins, their daughter, their God, and the thousands of screaming imbeciles in elephant hats waving McCain/Palin signs on the floor of the Republican National Convention.